1 00:00:07,190 --> 00:00:03,110 what's up everybody happy Thursday 2 00:00:10,129 --> 00:00:07,200 thanks for joining me today we are 3 00:00:12,830 --> 00:00:10,139 having a very special episode called 4 00:00:15,110 --> 00:00:12,840 the skinwalker boa is first Department 5 00:00:16,910 --> 00:00:15,120 of Defense 6 00:00:19,370 --> 00:00:16,920 thanks for tuning in like the video 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:19,380 subscribe if you haven't 8 00:00:29,269 --> 00:00:26,830 [Music] 9 00:00:30,470 --> 00:00:29,279 a little due respect to the Air Force 10 00:00:57,210 --> 00:00:30,480 and I believe that some of them will 11 00:00:57,220 --> 00:01:06,469 [Music] 12 00:01:11,870 --> 00:01:08,750 what's up how's everybody doing thanks 13 00:01:14,690 --> 00:01:11,880 for joining me we have 14 00:01:15,710 --> 00:01:14,700 some pretty cool people in the chat that 15 00:01:23,570 --> 00:01:15,720 I'm pretty 16 00:01:24,710 --> 00:01:23,580 we have Mr Andres he says he wants to 17 00:01:28,450 --> 00:01:24,720 believe 18 00:01:32,390 --> 00:01:28,460 Lazar don't we all that's fantastic 19 00:01:33,649 --> 00:01:32,400 LC here we go what's up thanks for 20 00:01:37,550 --> 00:01:33,659 coming 21 00:01:39,710 --> 00:01:37,560 uh rashu what's happening how you doing 22 00:01:43,249 --> 00:01:39,720 thanks for being here 23 00:01:45,350 --> 00:01:43,259 Christian what's up brother 24 00:01:47,870 --> 00:01:45,360 um but thanks for being here 25 00:01:49,550 --> 00:01:47,880 Sun saver thanks for being here you are 26 00:01:53,510 --> 00:01:49,560 giving your permission 27 00:01:55,550 --> 00:01:53,520 uh for Andres to believe in Bob Lazar 28 00:01:57,910 --> 00:01:55,560 that's awesome 29 00:02:01,190 --> 00:01:57,920 Robert thanks for being here he says 30 00:02:04,490 --> 00:02:01,200 sport model seems a little chunkier 31 00:02:09,589 --> 00:02:07,910 good nice looking I appreciate it 32 00:02:12,949 --> 00:02:09,599 um how's everybody doing 33 00:02:15,410 --> 00:02:12,959 let me know how are you 34 00:02:18,890 --> 00:02:15,420 um we have L here what's up awesome 35 00:02:21,290 --> 00:02:18,900 thanks for being here Keith what's up 36 00:02:22,309 --> 00:02:21,300 um we got a great crowd here today Steve 37 00:02:23,990 --> 00:02:22,319 what's up 38 00:02:25,130 --> 00:02:24,000 uh everybody if you're watching on 39 00:02:27,830 --> 00:02:25,140 Twitter why don't you head over to 40 00:02:29,390 --> 00:02:27,840 YouTube subscribe and like the video man 41 00:02:32,210 --> 00:02:29,400 I mean 42 00:02:35,330 --> 00:02:32,220 jeez disclosure team Vinnie what's up 43 00:02:36,830 --> 00:02:35,340 how are you it's raining over by me so 44 00:02:40,250 --> 00:02:36,840 it's kind of one of those days where 45 00:02:41,930 --> 00:02:40,260 you're just chilling out it's raining 46 00:02:44,509 --> 00:02:41,940 um I'm working 47 00:02:46,790 --> 00:02:44,519 today I gotta go back a little later 48 00:02:48,530 --> 00:02:46,800 probably 49 00:02:50,750 --> 00:02:48,540 um or sometimes I work from home I don't 50 00:02:53,630 --> 00:02:50,760 know you know it really depends 51 00:02:55,430 --> 00:02:53,640 uh but I want to thanks you know thank 52 00:02:57,830 --> 00:02:55,440 everybody for being here and sticking 53 00:03:00,770 --> 00:02:57,840 with me and being so kind and you know 54 00:03:02,690 --> 00:03:00,780 uh liking the videos and supporting the 55 00:03:05,270 --> 00:03:02,700 work and you know even the music things 56 00:03:07,070 --> 00:03:05,280 that I do and the documents and and all 57 00:03:10,550 --> 00:03:07,080 that kind of stuff uh I really do 58 00:03:12,770 --> 00:03:10,560 appreciate it it means a lot for sure I 59 00:03:15,170 --> 00:03:12,780 know this isn't the most uh 60 00:03:17,449 --> 00:03:15,180 you know we're not the most popular 61 00:03:18,830 --> 00:03:17,459 podcast in the world but we're not the 62 00:03:22,250 --> 00:03:18,840 most 63 00:03:23,869 --> 00:03:22,260 um not popular podcast in the world so 64 00:03:25,729 --> 00:03:23,879 you know we're kind of in the medium and 65 00:03:29,570 --> 00:03:25,739 I'll take that 66 00:03:31,790 --> 00:03:29,580 I do have a couple things planned 67 00:03:34,850 --> 00:03:31,800 um first you're probably wondering about 68 00:03:37,670 --> 00:03:34,860 the title the title is the skinwalker 69 00:03:39,710 --> 00:03:37,680 boys uh versus the Department of Defense 70 00:03:43,729 --> 00:03:39,720 and we'll get into that 71 00:03:46,850 --> 00:03:43,739 we will I promise but first I want to 72 00:03:49,250 --> 00:03:46,860 actually show and go through 73 00:03:51,589 --> 00:03:49,260 oh man look at that you are the realest 74 00:03:54,350 --> 00:03:51,599 of you are one of the realest Brothers 75 00:03:56,270 --> 00:03:54,360 thank you I appreciate that 76 00:03:59,630 --> 00:03:56,280 uh Vinnie you are too you know it's 77 00:04:03,050 --> 00:03:59,640 important to me to be 78 00:04:05,509 --> 00:04:03,060 real it's important to me to 79 00:04:10,190 --> 00:04:05,519 not 80 00:04:12,770 --> 00:04:10,200 world there's a couple sides there's 81 00:04:14,630 --> 00:04:12,780 there's the one side that kind of uh 82 00:04:18,770 --> 00:04:14,640 everything 83 00:04:22,969 --> 00:04:18,780 know Bob Lazar all that kind of stuff 84 00:04:26,570 --> 00:04:22,979 whatever everything is is real and legit 85 00:04:29,030 --> 00:04:26,580 and and you know and I'm not saying it 86 00:04:31,610 --> 00:04:29,040 isn't but that's the one side and they 87 00:04:35,090 --> 00:04:31,620 they fight about it with such uh 88 00:04:36,710 --> 00:04:35,100 ferocious tenacity tenacity 89 00:04:37,969 --> 00:04:36,720 um and then you also have a debunker 90 00:04:40,249 --> 00:04:37,979 side and then you have some people in 91 00:04:41,810 --> 00:04:40,259 the middle which I try to be in the 92 00:04:43,550 --> 00:04:41,820 middle as much as I can you know I've 93 00:04:45,830 --> 00:04:43,560 had my own sighting I've had my thing 94 00:04:48,230 --> 00:04:45,840 and so you know there's always that side 95 00:04:50,210 --> 00:04:48,240 of me that believes in something I just 96 00:04:52,850 --> 00:04:50,220 don't know what it is but in this show I 97 00:04:55,670 --> 00:04:52,860 do plan to get into you know kind of a 98 00:04:59,950 --> 00:04:55,680 breakdown of some of the latest news but 99 00:05:06,530 --> 00:05:03,350 we check out 100 00:05:09,530 --> 00:05:06,540 a couple interesting pieces 101 00:05:09,540 --> 00:05:12,590 history 102 00:05:20,629 --> 00:05:14,810 with UFOs 103 00:05:22,610 --> 00:05:20,639 goes back a long long long long time 104 00:05:24,469 --> 00:05:22,620 even like 105 00:05:26,270 --> 00:05:24,479 you know Congressional hearings go back 106 00:05:29,150 --> 00:05:26,280 a long time 107 00:05:30,950 --> 00:05:29,160 um behind the scenes meetings go back a 108 00:05:32,810 --> 00:05:30,960 long time so what we're going to do 109 00:05:34,189 --> 00:05:32,820 first and and the reason I'm doing this 110 00:05:35,749 --> 00:05:34,199 is because we've had Congressional 111 00:05:37,370 --> 00:05:35,759 hearings and we're kind of having talk 112 00:05:39,290 --> 00:05:37,380 of Congressional hearings no if we 113 00:05:41,270 --> 00:05:39,300 follow Christopher sharp on Liberation 114 00:05:44,270 --> 00:05:41,280 times great guy 115 00:05:45,770 --> 00:05:44,280 um he is talking about that uh you know 116 00:05:48,890 --> 00:05:45,780 things are ramping up for Congressional 117 00:05:52,129 --> 00:05:48,900 hearings we recently had uh Timber chet 118 00:05:54,770 --> 00:05:52,139 on uh newspap Newsmax everybody's 119 00:05:55,730 --> 00:05:54,780 favorite favorite News Channel talking 120 00:05:58,010 --> 00:05:55,740 about 121 00:06:00,890 --> 00:05:58,020 um trying to have hearings and all that 122 00:06:02,570 --> 00:06:00,900 kind of stuff so you know and I've never 123 00:06:04,370 --> 00:06:02,580 went through these documents on the show 124 00:06:05,570 --> 00:06:04,380 but I thought it would be interesting to 125 00:06:07,430 --> 00:06:05,580 go through 126 00:06:09,710 --> 00:06:07,440 uh previous 127 00:06:11,150 --> 00:06:09,720 you know a previous kind of effort of 128 00:06:12,409 --> 00:06:11,160 Congressional hearings and I'm not going 129 00:06:14,270 --> 00:06:12,419 to take a whole lot of time going 130 00:06:16,310 --> 00:06:14,280 through this I just want to highlight a 131 00:06:17,749 --> 00:06:16,320 couple points and and really the points 132 00:06:21,350 --> 00:06:17,759 are 133 00:06:23,270 --> 00:06:21,360 um how the Air Force treated this stuff 134 00:06:25,430 --> 00:06:23,280 um behind the scenes you know when they 135 00:06:27,950 --> 00:06:25,440 weren't talking to a newspaper when they 136 00:06:29,870 --> 00:06:27,960 weren't on TV at a news conference 137 00:06:31,670 --> 00:06:29,880 um what were they saying were they 138 00:06:34,969 --> 00:06:31,680 saying about the different uh UFO 139 00:06:38,870 --> 00:06:34,979 organizations like nightcap nightcap was 140 00:06:41,330 --> 00:06:38,880 a big one that was a big UFO uh civilian 141 00:06:44,390 --> 00:06:41,340 investigation team and without getting 142 00:06:47,450 --> 00:06:44,400 the history of food nightcap is you can 143 00:06:49,909 --> 00:06:47,460 look that up and I see AP 144 00:06:51,650 --> 00:06:49,919 um they do come up in a little bit in 145 00:06:55,370 --> 00:06:51,660 this so 146 00:06:59,029 --> 00:06:55,380 this first one here is 147 00:07:00,950 --> 00:06:59,039 you can see at the top in the upper left 148 00:07:05,689 --> 00:07:00,960 hand corner 149 00:07:09,170 --> 00:07:05,699 it says June 20th 1958 briefing for 150 00:07:11,809 --> 00:07:09,180 representative Henderson so I picked 151 00:07:14,570 --> 00:07:11,819 this one because uh recently we also 152 00:07:17,870 --> 00:07:14,580 have met Gates and and burchett who 153 00:07:20,809 --> 00:07:17,880 apparently were briefed in Florida as 154 00:07:25,670 --> 00:07:23,210 um and and they said they you know saw 155 00:07:28,249 --> 00:07:25,680 some weird UFO videos with some things 156 00:07:29,469 --> 00:07:28,259 flying around that definitely aren't uh 157 00:07:31,790 --> 00:07:29,479 man-made 158 00:07:34,189 --> 00:07:31,800 and they're doing some pretty ridiculous 159 00:07:35,150 --> 00:07:34,199 things which you know which I no doubt 160 00:07:37,490 --> 00:07:35,160 but 161 00:07:40,309 --> 00:07:37,500 um so I wanted to get into this and you 162 00:07:41,210 --> 00:07:40,319 know it's a 19 page thing and it's not 163 00:07:42,950 --> 00:07:41,220 all 164 00:07:44,570 --> 00:07:42,960 you know I'm not going to go through it 165 00:07:46,129 --> 00:07:44,580 all I just highlighted a couple parts 166 00:07:49,730 --> 00:07:46,139 but 167 00:07:54,290 --> 00:07:52,309 here we kind of get like uh the cover 168 00:07:55,370 --> 00:07:54,300 page right 169 00:07:59,089 --> 00:07:55,380 um 170 00:08:01,070 --> 00:07:59,099 not too much uh in there and I'm hoping 171 00:08:04,969 --> 00:08:01,080 it saved my highlights yes it did okay 172 00:08:07,790 --> 00:08:04,979 so so in these 173 00:08:10,129 --> 00:08:07,800 things here we go so Lawrence Tacker who 174 00:08:12,589 --> 00:08:10,139 is like the this is who wrote this 175 00:08:14,570 --> 00:08:12,599 letter he was like the person who was 176 00:08:17,150 --> 00:08:14,580 the public face of Project Blue Book the 177 00:08:21,469 --> 00:08:17,160 group that investigated UFOs and he's 178 00:08:24,230 --> 00:08:21,479 writing to uh Mr RC Archer who was the 179 00:08:26,150 --> 00:08:24,240 uh basically the head scientist 180 00:08:28,010 --> 00:08:26,160 um for 181 00:08:30,050 --> 00:08:28,020 um the part of the Air Force that looked 182 00:08:32,690 --> 00:08:30,060 into UFOs and he also did you know other 183 00:08:34,430 --> 00:08:32,700 things but he was just a heads actor so 184 00:08:36,050 --> 00:08:34,440 he writes here's a letter from 185 00:08:37,850 --> 00:08:36,060 Congressman Henderson of the 15th 186 00:08:39,469 --> 00:08:37,860 District of Ohio he asked many questions 187 00:08:41,630 --> 00:08:39,479 and we desire to have complete answers 188 00:08:43,969 --> 00:08:41,640 each one in response to this letter he 189 00:08:46,310 --> 00:08:43,979 wanted the 10 best sightings 190 00:08:49,550 --> 00:08:46,320 um major Boland and I intend to hand 191 00:08:51,410 --> 00:08:49,560 carry the reply to Mr Henderson and 192 00:08:55,490 --> 00:08:51,420 brief him on the entire project as 193 00:09:00,050 --> 00:08:58,009 um you know big deal 194 00:09:01,790 --> 00:09:00,060 not a big deal there so I'm going to 195 00:09:04,130 --> 00:09:01,800 skip to a couple things so the The 196 00:09:05,389 --> 00:09:04,140 Briefing is that that I've read like 197 00:09:08,150 --> 00:09:05,399 this where they're briefing different 198 00:09:10,550 --> 00:09:08,160 congressmen and such back in the day 199 00:09:13,190 --> 00:09:10,560 um you don't get anything really 200 00:09:15,290 --> 00:09:13,200 different than 201 00:09:17,030 --> 00:09:15,300 um you know what eventually came out to 202 00:09:20,990 --> 00:09:17,040 the public whether it be Project Blue 203 00:09:23,030 --> 00:09:21,000 books report number 14 or you know other 204 00:09:25,310 --> 00:09:23,040 things but you do get a couple 205 00:09:27,910 --> 00:09:25,320 interesting Snippets uh one of the 206 00:09:30,590 --> 00:09:27,920 things that I thought was interesting is 207 00:09:34,190 --> 00:09:30,600 they do give some information on The 208 00:09:36,949 --> 00:09:34,200 Mantel case and what they do 209 00:09:38,870 --> 00:09:36,959 is they're talking about like a geiger 210 00:09:40,910 --> 00:09:38,880 counter so they bring they said in this 211 00:09:42,290 --> 00:09:40,920 briefing they bring a geiger counter to 212 00:09:44,930 --> 00:09:42,300 all the different sightings and they 213 00:09:48,350 --> 00:09:44,940 have yet to read have one reading where 214 00:09:50,329 --> 00:09:48,360 the background radiation uh was any 215 00:09:52,910 --> 00:09:50,339 different than than what they were 216 00:09:56,030 --> 00:09:52,920 measuring with the geiger counter 217 00:09:58,430 --> 00:09:56,040 but what happens is 218 00:10:00,829 --> 00:09:58,440 which is interesting because this is not 219 00:10:03,170 --> 00:10:00,839 in the project uh blue book case File 220 00:10:05,570 --> 00:10:03,180 they say for example geiger counter 221 00:10:08,150 --> 00:10:05,580 sweeps of some aircraft involved with 222 00:10:09,829 --> 00:10:08,160 alleged UFOs at high altitude shows a 223 00:10:12,590 --> 00:10:09,839 slightly higher radioactivity than 224 00:10:14,570 --> 00:10:12,600 normal reason aircraft receive greater 225 00:10:16,910 --> 00:10:14,580 dosage of cosmic rays at high altitude 226 00:10:20,170 --> 00:10:16,920 example mantel case which apparently 227 00:10:23,509 --> 00:10:20,180 prompted this query so The Mantel case 228 00:10:26,090 --> 00:10:23,519 this person chased an object in the sky 229 00:10:27,889 --> 00:10:26,100 he wound up crashing and dying 230 00:10:30,769 --> 00:10:27,899 and they actually brought a geiger 231 00:10:33,470 --> 00:10:30,779 counter to the craft and it had a very 232 00:10:34,970 --> 00:10:33,480 high radioactivity which is super 233 00:10:37,130 --> 00:10:34,980 interesting because they didn't tell the 234 00:10:39,230 --> 00:10:37,140 public that now whether it actually is 235 00:10:42,590 --> 00:10:39,240 the case that these things have uh 236 00:10:44,329 --> 00:10:42,600 higher uh dosage of cosmic raisin that's 237 00:10:47,509 --> 00:10:44,339 uh you know why it has a higher 238 00:10:49,730 --> 00:10:47,519 radiation or not in in this instance is 239 00:10:51,470 --> 00:10:49,740 irrelevant the fact is that they didn't 240 00:10:53,329 --> 00:10:51,480 tell anybody they didn't tell the public 241 00:10:57,170 --> 00:10:53,339 that or anything 242 00:11:00,350 --> 00:10:57,180 you know and this is one example of many 243 00:11:02,030 --> 00:11:00,360 of how the air force uh hid things from 244 00:11:04,310 --> 00:11:02,040 the public back in the day and they were 245 00:11:05,810 --> 00:11:04,320 not as transparent as they could be and 246 00:11:08,150 --> 00:11:05,820 it is one of the reasons that there were 247 00:11:09,769 --> 00:11:08,160 civilian UFO groups because they felt 248 00:11:12,230 --> 00:11:09,779 like they weren't being told the truth 249 00:11:14,630 --> 00:11:12,240 and whether that truth is what they said 250 00:11:16,970 --> 00:11:14,640 it was or not is irrelevant they were 251 00:11:20,870 --> 00:11:16,980 not being told the truth and that 252 00:11:22,490 --> 00:11:20,880 secrecy is the reason for why there are 253 00:11:28,190 --> 00:11:22,500 so many people that were attacking the 254 00:11:32,810 --> 00:11:30,949 so I thought that was interesting and 255 00:11:35,090 --> 00:11:32,820 this document isn't going to take too 256 00:11:41,210 --> 00:11:36,530 this 257 00:11:43,009 --> 00:11:41,220 actually written to I think it was the 258 00:11:48,350 --> 00:11:43,019 uh 259 00:11:49,970 --> 00:11:48,360 did this briefing and they had to report 260 00:11:51,769 --> 00:11:49,980 back to the Secretary of the Air Force 261 00:11:53,210 --> 00:11:51,779 Tom Powell went so this is the 262 00:11:54,829 --> 00:11:53,220 memorandum for the record this one I'm 263 00:11:57,230 --> 00:11:54,839 going to read because this really gives 264 00:12:00,170 --> 00:11:57,240 you an idea of what happened this 265 00:12:01,490 --> 00:12:00,180 meeting I think was in secret and it was 266 00:12:03,650 --> 00:12:01,500 not public 267 00:12:05,870 --> 00:12:03,660 and the Air Force meets these 268 00:12:08,449 --> 00:12:05,880 congressmen they met a lot of them as 269 00:12:11,329 --> 00:12:08,459 you can see here we have representative 270 00:12:14,030 --> 00:12:11,339 Henderson rep Kramer Magnuson 271 00:12:16,670 --> 00:12:14,040 and then what's also interesting is you 272 00:12:19,370 --> 00:12:16,680 have these four on the bottom say 273 00:12:21,710 --> 00:12:19,380 Administration Aid 274 00:12:24,710 --> 00:12:21,720 you know so their AIDS being briefed on 275 00:12:26,269 --> 00:12:24,720 this which is what we hear of happening 276 00:12:29,030 --> 00:12:26,279 today 277 00:12:31,490 --> 00:12:29,040 are a lot of AIDS are briefed on this so 278 00:12:33,769 --> 00:12:31,500 I thought that was you know I don't know 279 00:12:36,590 --> 00:12:33,779 makes sense to talk about it 280 00:12:39,230 --> 00:12:36,600 so they brief these people and this is a 281 00:12:41,150 --> 00:12:39,240 report back about what happened 282 00:12:43,129 --> 00:12:41,160 the subject briefing scheduled for one 283 00:12:44,449 --> 00:12:43,139 hour last the full morning which tests 284 00:12:46,129 --> 00:12:44,459 to the Congressional interest and the 285 00:12:48,110 --> 00:12:46,139 subject of following is believed to have 286 00:12:50,210 --> 00:12:48,120 accrued from The Briefing with members 287 00:12:52,250 --> 00:12:50,220 expressing so this guy is saying that 288 00:12:53,889 --> 00:12:52,260 these members these A's and the 289 00:12:58,190 --> 00:12:53,899 congressmen are 290 00:12:59,930 --> 00:12:58,200 expressing this after the briefing that 291 00:13:02,990 --> 00:12:59,940 they have confidence in the Air Force 292 00:13:04,970 --> 00:13:03,000 UFO program an understanding of the 293 00:13:07,250 --> 00:13:04,980 problems the Air Force faces in 294 00:13:08,870 --> 00:13:07,260 administering the program acceptance of 295 00:13:11,509 --> 00:13:08,880 responsibility to personally advise 296 00:13:14,150 --> 00:13:11,519 their constituents on the UFO matter 297 00:13:17,449 --> 00:13:14,160 so the Air Force pretty much convinced 298 00:13:18,170 --> 00:13:17,459 them like hey uh We're Not Gonna you 299 00:13:19,910 --> 00:13:18,180 know 300 00:13:22,310 --> 00:13:19,920 we don't want to be the public face of 301 00:13:25,009 --> 00:13:22,320 this this is your responsibility which I 302 00:13:26,210 --> 00:13:25,019 think is just complete rep but 303 00:13:28,850 --> 00:13:26,220 um 304 00:13:31,250 --> 00:13:28,860 you know so and then we have agreement 305 00:13:34,670 --> 00:13:31,260 that it would be unwise to give the 306 00:13:37,430 --> 00:13:34,680 subject undue publicity particularly in 307 00:13:40,490 --> 00:13:37,440 an open or closed formal Congressional 308 00:13:41,810 --> 00:13:40,500 hearing so they convinced uh these 309 00:13:43,550 --> 00:13:41,820 Representatives 310 00:13:45,769 --> 00:13:43,560 that 311 00:13:48,889 --> 00:13:45,779 it would be unwise 312 00:13:50,930 --> 00:13:48,899 to have the public eyes on this 313 00:13:56,269 --> 00:13:50,940 and either a closed 314 00:13:59,870 --> 00:13:58,310 that's complete 315 00:13:59,870 --> 00:14:03,050 and utter 316 00:14:08,870 --> 00:14:05,629 distrust in private organizations and 317 00:14:10,730 --> 00:14:08,880 authors is giving undue impetus to the 318 00:14:16,550 --> 00:14:10,740 existence of flying saucers and 319 00:14:21,889 --> 00:14:18,310 so 320 00:14:23,870 --> 00:14:21,899 they're saying that they have distrust 321 00:14:26,150 --> 00:14:23,880 in organizations and authors so that 322 00:14:27,889 --> 00:14:26,160 whoever wrote like you know UFO books or 323 00:14:31,310 --> 00:14:27,899 that nightcap group I I mentioned 324 00:14:36,069 --> 00:14:33,829 as giving undue impetus to the existence 325 00:14:38,990 --> 00:14:36,079 of flying saucers 326 00:14:40,189 --> 00:14:39,000 also known as UFOs now if you watch this 327 00:14:42,650 --> 00:14:40,199 show long enough 328 00:14:45,110 --> 00:14:42,660 you know actually 329 00:14:46,250 --> 00:14:45,120 I think it would be worth just sitting 330 00:14:50,689 --> 00:14:46,260 there for 331 00:14:50,699 --> 00:14:53,930 so we have 332 00:14:58,730 --> 00:14:56,329 undue impetus to the existence of flying 333 00:15:03,829 --> 00:14:58,740 saucers and what I want to do here and 334 00:15:12,290 --> 00:15:06,530 is 335 00:15:20,329 --> 00:15:13,910 of 336 00:15:26,350 --> 00:15:23,389 and I think we can all agree 337 00:15:28,850 --> 00:15:26,360 that it should be 338 00:15:30,710 --> 00:15:28,860 taken seriously and it is there is a 339 00:15:33,710 --> 00:15:30,720 really good reason 340 00:15:37,490 --> 00:15:33,720 to take it seriously 341 00:15:39,889 --> 00:15:37,500 and I'm going to my website here 342 00:15:42,050 --> 00:15:39,899 and I just released this story and this 343 00:15:44,389 --> 00:15:42,060 is a perfect example 344 00:15:47,090 --> 00:15:44,399 so we have this Airman second class 345 00:15:48,530 --> 00:15:47,100 Padilla witness object northeast corner 346 00:15:50,990 --> 00:15:48,540 of Raymond Air Force Base apparently 347 00:15:52,610 --> 00:15:51,000 while at the beach April 16th he said 348 00:15:53,990 --> 00:15:52,620 the object appeared to be floating or 349 00:15:55,550 --> 00:15:54,000 hovering just above the water and 350 00:15:58,310 --> 00:15:55,560 traveled a short distance from the left 351 00:16:00,230 --> 00:15:58,320 to the right and back it then began to 352 00:16:02,449 --> 00:16:00,240 rise from the water traveling from right 353 00:16:04,310 --> 00:16:02,459 to left it was then he snapped the photo 354 00:16:07,730 --> 00:16:04,320 afterwards the object reversed its 355 00:16:09,650 --> 00:16:07,740 course and disappeared from its view 356 00:16:10,850 --> 00:16:09,660 the person who looked at this Captain 357 00:16:13,970 --> 00:16:10,860 Williamson 358 00:16:16,129 --> 00:16:13,980 stated that Airman Padilla and Henry who 359 00:16:22,610 --> 00:16:16,139 I think it was maybe his friend are 360 00:16:27,590 --> 00:16:24,590 he went on to say that they are not the 361 00:16:29,810 --> 00:16:27,600 publicity seeking type and Padilla was 362 00:16:32,030 --> 00:16:29,820 particularly concerned that other people 363 00:16:34,610 --> 00:16:32,040 would think of him as a nut 364 00:16:36,530 --> 00:16:34,620 if his sightings became public 365 00:16:38,569 --> 00:16:36,540 Captain Williamson said that after 366 00:16:41,030 --> 00:16:38,579 discussing the siding with other members 367 00:16:42,470 --> 00:16:41,040 of the Intelligence Division and letting 368 00:16:44,930 --> 00:16:42,480 the prediction and interpretation 369 00:16:47,030 --> 00:16:44,940 section examine the 35 millimeter slide 370 00:16:51,189 --> 00:16:47,040 it seemed to be a credible sighting 371 00:16:56,269 --> 00:16:54,590 so they look at this 372 00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:56,279 the guy who looks at it says yeah it's 373 00:16:59,329 --> 00:16:57,360 credible 374 00:17:01,970 --> 00:16:59,339 this guy doesn't want publicity because 375 00:17:04,730 --> 00:17:01,980 he doesn't want to be labeled a nut 376 00:17:09,710 --> 00:17:07,610 and snaps this picture 377 00:17:11,510 --> 00:17:09,720 and guess what nobody was told about 378 00:17:13,309 --> 00:17:11,520 this picture nobody was told about this 379 00:17:14,929 --> 00:17:13,319 story 380 00:17:17,030 --> 00:17:14,939 there's a colored version of this 381 00:17:19,189 --> 00:17:17,040 picture somewhere hopefully in the 382 00:17:22,490 --> 00:17:19,199 archives that maybe one day I'll get to 383 00:17:27,829 --> 00:17:25,010 and that to me looks like something 384 00:17:32,090 --> 00:17:30,049 you know 385 00:17:34,669 --> 00:17:32,100 and 386 00:17:36,770 --> 00:17:34,679 going further is this was this case 387 00:17:39,529 --> 00:17:36,780 wasn't even included in any of their 388 00:17:43,010 --> 00:17:39,539 Blue Book Air Force reports 389 00:17:50,090 --> 00:17:44,390 so 390 00:17:54,049 --> 00:17:52,430 you know they didn't 391 00:17:56,090 --> 00:17:54,059 this didn't even go to the content 392 00:17:58,549 --> 00:17:56,100 committee 393 00:18:00,830 --> 00:17:58,559 who wound up like studying a bunch of 394 00:18:02,810 --> 00:18:00,840 you know UFO stuff in the late 60s and 395 00:18:04,490 --> 00:18:02,820 said there's nothing to see here 396 00:18:06,710 --> 00:18:04,500 there's nothing to see here because they 397 00:18:08,270 --> 00:18:06,720 didn't get the good cases you know the 398 00:18:11,870 --> 00:18:08,280 unexplainable ones 399 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,810 so 400 00:18:19,490 --> 00:18:17,029 just wanted to throw that out there and 401 00:18:21,770 --> 00:18:19,500 say there is good reason 402 00:18:27,350 --> 00:18:21,780 to believe in the existence of flying 403 00:18:30,890 --> 00:18:29,330 and the Air Force knew that 404 00:18:33,110 --> 00:18:30,900 but they didn't want to tell Congress 405 00:18:34,250 --> 00:18:33,120 because if they did they would tell the 406 00:18:37,669 --> 00:18:34,260 public 407 00:18:40,190 --> 00:18:37,679 and they would have a lot to answer for 408 00:18:42,289 --> 00:18:40,200 some of which they just have no 409 00:18:44,510 --> 00:18:42,299 you know they have no idea of what to 410 00:18:46,010 --> 00:18:44,520 say about it so they they just convince 411 00:18:47,750 --> 00:18:46,020 people 412 00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:47,760 to have an agreement that it would be 413 00:18:52,789 --> 00:18:50,400 unwise to give the subject unto undue 414 00:18:54,350 --> 00:18:52,799 publicity 415 00:18:57,049 --> 00:18:54,360 and have distrust in private 416 00:19:02,870 --> 00:18:57,059 organizations is giving undue impetus to 417 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,770 so and this is just 418 00:19:12,230 --> 00:19:08,930 one example here 419 00:19:15,610 --> 00:19:12,240 so that's about it for that one 420 00:19:18,470 --> 00:19:15,620 but I do have another one in this one 421 00:19:20,450 --> 00:19:18,480 is really interesting because a lot of 422 00:19:22,730 --> 00:19:20,460 the times 423 00:19:24,230 --> 00:19:22,740 well here let me just bring it up so I 424 00:19:28,370 --> 00:19:24,240 can kind of 425 00:19:28,380 --> 00:19:31,610 so this one here 426 00:19:36,950 --> 00:19:33,470 number left hand corner you can see it 427 00:19:41,870 --> 00:19:36,960 the UFO program to American Society of 428 00:19:46,549 --> 00:19:41,880 newspapers Edition so what this was 429 00:19:50,390 --> 00:19:46,559 was this guy Newbold noise as it says 430 00:19:52,970 --> 00:19:50,400 was putting together a huge conference 431 00:19:55,010 --> 00:19:52,980 in where there would be over 700 people 432 00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:55,020 from the Press 433 00:20:00,169 --> 00:19:57,360 at this thing and people were going to 434 00:20:03,169 --> 00:20:00,179 talk about uh UFOs 435 00:20:06,890 --> 00:20:03,179 you know I think uh James McDonald if 436 00:20:10,490 --> 00:20:09,350 um there was uh also people from the Air 437 00:20:11,990 --> 00:20:10,500 Force and we're going to get into that 438 00:20:16,310 --> 00:20:12,000 so 439 00:20:19,210 --> 00:20:16,320 who is putting this together for the 440 00:20:21,529 --> 00:20:19,220 American Society of newspaper editors 441 00:20:23,510 --> 00:20:21,539 wrote this 442 00:20:25,669 --> 00:20:23,520 and I'm reading this just so I can get 443 00:20:27,049 --> 00:20:25,679 an idea of it as program chairman for 444 00:20:30,350 --> 00:20:27,059 this year's meeting of the American 445 00:20:32,930 --> 00:20:30,360 Society of newspaper editors which takes 446 00:20:35,090 --> 00:20:32,940 place here at the Sherman 447 00:20:36,590 --> 00:20:35,100 I'm trying to organize a serious seminar 448 00:20:38,270 --> 00:20:36,600 on the subject of UFOs I've been 449 00:20:40,549 --> 00:20:38,280 discussing the problem with Dr Condon 450 00:20:42,590 --> 00:20:40,559 heinek Menzel and the like I'm trying to 451 00:20:44,570 --> 00:20:42,600 keep major Keo and his gang at arm's 452 00:20:46,549 --> 00:20:44,580 length so this newspaper guy is saying 453 00:20:49,070 --> 00:20:46,559 I'm talking to these Skeptics and I'm 454 00:20:49,970 --> 00:20:49,080 trying to keep Kehoe who is 455 00:20:53,330 --> 00:20:49,980 um 456 00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:53,340 a big guy who said that the Air Force 457 00:20:58,130 --> 00:20:55,679 was you know hiding stuff so they're 458 00:21:00,650 --> 00:20:58,140 trying to keep him at arm's length what 459 00:21:04,549 --> 00:21:00,660 I hope to come up with is a non-kooky 460 00:21:06,110 --> 00:21:04,559 balanced panel with both Total and not 461 00:21:10,909 --> 00:21:06,120 so Skeptics 462 00:21:12,830 --> 00:21:10,919 here to the last paragraph As you 463 00:21:16,850 --> 00:21:12,840 probably know 464 00:21:18,409 --> 00:21:16,860 um the asne is composed of 700 newspaper 465 00:21:20,090 --> 00:21:18,419 editors from all over the country about 466 00:21:22,370 --> 00:21:20,100 500 of whom 467 00:21:23,510 --> 00:21:22,380 will be at this meeting so 500 were 468 00:21:25,250 --> 00:21:23,520 there 469 00:21:27,230 --> 00:21:25,260 right 470 00:21:29,029 --> 00:21:27,240 so somebody asked what the date of this 471 00:21:36,350 --> 00:21:29,039 was 472 00:21:41,529 --> 00:21:38,149 so okay so that just gives you a quick 473 00:21:46,549 --> 00:21:44,930 so in the background General uh 474 00:21:48,169 --> 00:21:46,559 liability 475 00:21:51,230 --> 00:21:48,179 I don't know how to say his last name 476 00:21:53,750 --> 00:21:51,240 correctly and others were discussing if 477 00:21:55,730 --> 00:21:53,760 this was a good idea to get uh quintilla 478 00:21:59,029 --> 00:21:55,740 involved in this 479 00:22:02,149 --> 00:21:59,039 if they should you know allow him to do 480 00:22:03,529 --> 00:22:02,159 this uh conference 481 00:22:05,390 --> 00:22:03,539 so 482 00:22:09,409 --> 00:22:05,400 one of the people that they consulted 483 00:22:13,250 --> 00:22:11,870 he was a big dog actually 484 00:22:17,450 --> 00:22:13,260 so 485 00:22:19,310 --> 00:22:17,460 you have this handwritten note in here 486 00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:19,320 which I found extremely interesting 487 00:22:24,890 --> 00:22:22,320 General Giller says I'm very much 488 00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:24,900 disturbed by the request for major 489 00:22:28,549 --> 00:22:27,600 quintilla to appear 490 00:22:31,850 --> 00:22:28,559 um 491 00:22:33,409 --> 00:22:31,860 on the panel so he's Disturbed at the 492 00:22:35,210 --> 00:22:33,419 request for quintilla to appear on the 493 00:22:38,330 --> 00:22:35,220 panel 494 00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:38,340 he says guys like Dr McDonald will 495 00:22:46,970 --> 00:22:44,450 so Dr McDonald if he didn't he was a big 496 00:22:49,130 --> 00:22:46,980 guy that said the Air Force and CIA were 497 00:22:51,169 --> 00:22:49,140 holding secrets on UFOs you can look 498 00:22:54,230 --> 00:22:51,179 them up and this General Giller said 499 00:22:56,149 --> 00:22:54,240 that he's Disturbed at the request 500 00:22:58,490 --> 00:22:56,159 for the Air Force representative Blue 501 00:23:02,390 --> 00:22:58,500 Book to attend this thing and says that 502 00:23:06,049 --> 00:23:02,400 people like McDonald will crucify him 503 00:23:11,690 --> 00:23:08,930 are these documents real Andre says of 504 00:23:19,970 --> 00:23:14,990 are they real he says come on man of 505 00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:21,169 so 506 00:23:25,669 --> 00:23:23,039 this is really interesting if contract 507 00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:25,679 say I think this word says contract but 508 00:23:32,330 --> 00:23:28,320 I'm not sure contract Personnel cannot 509 00:23:34,490 --> 00:23:32,340 appear it really shouldn't be done 510 00:23:37,250 --> 00:23:34,500 then it says Condon 511 00:23:40,490 --> 00:23:37,260 don't believe they are deep enough into 512 00:23:43,669 --> 00:23:40,500 the problem yet so I don't know 513 00:23:44,930 --> 00:23:43,679 so that's not as interesting but 514 00:23:48,289 --> 00:23:44,940 yes 515 00:23:50,750 --> 00:23:48,299 so now this is 516 00:23:52,610 --> 00:23:50,760 the most interesting thing because now 517 00:23:55,549 --> 00:23:52,620 we're going to see 518 00:23:57,230 --> 00:23:55,559 quintilla is going to do this 519 00:23:59,210 --> 00:23:57,240 and 520 00:24:00,830 --> 00:23:59,220 we have this prep work that the Air 521 00:24:03,710 --> 00:24:00,840 Force is putting in with quintilla 522 00:24:05,810 --> 00:24:03,720 before this panel 523 00:24:07,930 --> 00:24:05,820 and just listen to this this is a resume 524 00:24:10,190 --> 00:24:07,940 of a telephone conversation between 525 00:24:18,770 --> 00:24:10,200 Colonel Stanley 526 00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:18,780 to General Giller whose concern simply 527 00:24:24,169 --> 00:24:20,880 was that quintilla would get caught in 528 00:24:25,909 --> 00:24:24,179 crossfire Giller had told him that both 529 00:24:29,810 --> 00:24:25,919 he and Jax had discussed the problem 530 00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:29,820 with home Stanley stated that noise from 531 00:24:34,730 --> 00:24:32,880 the paper people is president of the 532 00:24:36,289 --> 00:24:34,740 Washington story he's going to have this 533 00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:36,299 panel whether or not the Air Force 534 00:24:40,850 --> 00:24:38,400 participates participation on the panel 535 00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:40,860 of this sort is a departure from the Air 536 00:24:46,070 --> 00:24:43,679 Force public relations they are aware of 537 00:24:47,870 --> 00:24:46,080 the pitfalls but the staff has taken 538 00:24:50,330 --> 00:24:47,880 action to reduce dangers of getting 539 00:24:52,370 --> 00:24:50,340 involved Stanley and quintilla will be 540 00:24:54,289 --> 00:24:52,380 given the same treatment as many others 541 00:24:57,289 --> 00:24:54,299 who have gone on a press conference such 542 00:25:00,649 --> 00:24:57,299 as Dr Brown for instance the decision to 543 00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:00,659 have him participate was not on accident 544 00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:03,840 two kernels with 30 years experience in 545 00:25:07,250 --> 00:25:06,000 the information business will be holding 546 00:25:09,710 --> 00:25:07,260 his hands 547 00:25:11,450 --> 00:25:09,720 so here 548 00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:11,460 they say two Colonels in the Air Force 549 00:25:17,210 --> 00:25:15,360 for 30 years of information experience 550 00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:17,220 will be holding the hands of quintillo 551 00:25:21,289 --> 00:25:19,440 while he does this 552 00:25:23,870 --> 00:25:21,299 walking them through how to do it what 553 00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:23,880 to say so being honest just answering 554 00:25:34,549 --> 00:25:31,370 you know they have to go over what to 555 00:25:38,510 --> 00:25:36,710 they will work them over and ask them 556 00:25:43,549 --> 00:25:38,520 every leading dirty question he might 557 00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:46,130 pretty interesting 558 00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:48,720 Hector quintilla the guy who's gonna 559 00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:51,840 partake in this panel has two things 560 00:25:57,950 --> 00:25:56,330 one 561 00:26:00,830 --> 00:25:57,960 as stated 562 00:26:03,470 --> 00:26:00,840 he will be brainwashed thoroughly 563 00:26:05,390 --> 00:26:03,480 before he goes on 564 00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:05,400 we're not going to throw quintilla out 565 00:26:10,789 --> 00:26:07,440 in the cold pool by himself 566 00:26:14,210 --> 00:26:10,799 he is going to be brainwashed 567 00:26:15,769 --> 00:26:14,220 so these Air Force guys 568 00:26:19,850 --> 00:26:15,779 are saying they're gonna brainwash 569 00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:22,430 before he 570 00:26:27,230 --> 00:26:24,240 goes out 571 00:26:31,610 --> 00:26:27,240 in this panel 572 00:26:34,850 --> 00:26:31,620 and talks about the Blue Book UFO work 573 00:26:40,730 --> 00:26:37,909 two the other thing he has going for him 574 00:26:43,490 --> 00:26:40,740 man named Phil class 575 00:26:46,130 --> 00:26:43,500 will be on the panel he is utterly 576 00:26:49,010 --> 00:26:46,140 convinced that UFOs are electromagnetic 577 00:26:52,430 --> 00:26:50,750 he has a book in random house and is 578 00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:52,440 anxious to be on the panel to promote 579 00:26:56,049 --> 00:26:54,720 his book and will be eager to debate 580 00:26:58,970 --> 00:26:56,059 with McDonald 581 00:27:01,850 --> 00:26:58,980 Air Force public relations figures major 582 00:27:06,830 --> 00:27:01,860 quintilla will probably be able to just 583 00:27:10,370 --> 00:27:08,930 so what's what are they excited about 584 00:27:12,830 --> 00:27:10,380 they're saying 585 00:27:14,690 --> 00:27:12,840 what he has to go what quintilla has 586 00:27:16,430 --> 00:27:14,700 gone for him is that there's two people 587 00:27:18,529 --> 00:27:16,440 on this panel that'll pretty much just 588 00:27:20,930 --> 00:27:18,539 Rd back and forth and he won't have to 589 00:27:24,049 --> 00:27:20,940 say anything now what does that remind 590 00:27:29,690 --> 00:27:27,350 it reminds me of the situation today 591 00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:29,700 where stories are let out in the public 592 00:27:34,669 --> 00:27:32,159 and people just argue about it now it 593 00:27:37,070 --> 00:27:34,679 happens on Twitter meanwhile the Air 594 00:27:38,390 --> 00:27:37,080 Force just gets to sit back and watch it 595 00:27:50,570 --> 00:27:38,400 happen 596 00:27:55,130 --> 00:27:52,850 so yeah 597 00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:55,140 that is 598 00:27:58,799 --> 00:28:04,130 so I thought that was interesting 599 00:28:09,529 --> 00:28:06,049 to get an inside look at how the Air 600 00:28:13,610 --> 00:28:11,630 they wanted to get people 601 00:28:16,190 --> 00:28:13,620 they're getting people up in front of 602 00:28:18,289 --> 00:28:16,200 these newspaper people 603 00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:18,299 but not before they Brainwashed the 604 00:28:26,210 --> 00:28:24,289 in another positive another reason they 605 00:28:28,810 --> 00:28:26,220 let this go on is because there were 606 00:28:33,230 --> 00:28:28,820 people at this conference that were 607 00:28:36,169 --> 00:28:33,240 probably just gonna argue back and forth 608 00:28:41,149 --> 00:28:36,179 meaning the Air Force rep wouldn't have 609 00:28:41,159 --> 00:28:46,549 pretty crummy 610 00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:51,289 and that's exactly what happens now 611 00:28:56,810 --> 00:28:53,830 right now we have 612 00:28:58,970 --> 00:28:56,820 something that is 613 00:29:03,909 --> 00:28:58,980 come up recently 614 00:29:09,350 --> 00:29:03,919 uh in it you know the the UFO world 615 00:29:13,789 --> 00:29:11,330 you know Jay Stratton if you're not 616 00:29:15,529 --> 00:29:13,799 familiar Jay Stratton ran the UFO 617 00:29:17,870 --> 00:29:15,539 program 618 00:29:19,490 --> 00:29:17,880 um for the for the government I think in 619 00:29:21,289 --> 00:29:19,500 the Pentagon for 620 00:29:22,909 --> 00:29:21,299 the DMD I don't know I don't want to 621 00:29:24,830 --> 00:29:22,919 screw that up but I'm not exactly sure 622 00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:24,840 but for a long time 623 00:29:30,409 --> 00:29:27,600 he was a party skin walker Ranch 624 00:29:33,230 --> 00:29:30,419 did a lot of work there 625 00:29:36,289 --> 00:29:33,240 he ran uh UAP task force along with 626 00:29:40,210 --> 00:29:38,210 he was the head scientist for the UAP 627 00:29:44,389 --> 00:29:40,220 task force 628 00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:44,399 and they analyzed and looked at the 2019 629 00:29:49,730 --> 00:29:47,520 Southern California UFO events that were 630 00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:49,740 off the coast of California that Jeremy 631 00:29:54,590 --> 00:29:52,320 Corbell uh Unleashed on the world via 632 00:29:59,649 --> 00:29:54,600 videos and photographs and and all that 633 00:30:05,950 --> 00:30:02,810 the hearings last year 634 00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:05,960 um the representatives that were there 635 00:30:09,529 --> 00:30:08,880 basically said that they were 636 00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:09,539 um 637 00:30:15,409 --> 00:30:12,960 uavs or drones 638 00:30:17,810 --> 00:30:15,419 you know and I want you to keep in mind 639 00:30:20,269 --> 00:30:17,820 what we just went over 640 00:30:21,649 --> 00:30:20,279 how people are prepped to say the right 641 00:30:23,570 --> 00:30:21,659 things 642 00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:23,580 right 643 00:30:28,669 --> 00:30:25,919 so here we are at the hearings they say 644 00:30:30,590 --> 00:30:28,679 these things are drones and such and 645 00:30:32,750 --> 00:30:30,600 whatever do I really know what they are 646 00:30:34,789 --> 00:30:32,760 no I don't but the fact is that our Navy 647 00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:34,799 ships were swarmed by all these 648 00:30:39,649 --> 00:30:36,720 different objects 649 00:30:42,649 --> 00:30:39,659 unidentified objects 650 00:30:44,930 --> 00:30:42,659 and we don't really know uh what the 651 00:30:49,010 --> 00:30:44,940 truth is and the waters are quite muddy 652 00:30:53,630 --> 00:30:51,230 what happens so why am I bringing this 653 00:30:56,210 --> 00:30:53,640 up I'm bringing this up because Jay 654 00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:56,220 Stratton recently came out in the public 655 00:30:59,889 --> 00:30:58,080 came out and did an interview with uh 656 00:31:02,090 --> 00:30:59,899 George knepp first of all mystery aware 657 00:31:05,149 --> 00:31:02,100 and then 658 00:31:08,570 --> 00:31:05,159 um he signed up to do what's called 659 00:31:11,389 --> 00:31:08,580 alien con a conference that went uh 660 00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:11,399 happened a UFO or alien conference with 661 00:31:16,070 --> 00:31:13,440 uh if you listen to Jeremy corbell's 662 00:31:17,570 --> 00:31:16,080 last uh podcast he said that is either 663 00:31:19,850 --> 00:31:17,580 like the History Channel or something 664 00:31:23,389 --> 00:31:19,860 like that puts puts this together so a 665 00:31:28,130 --> 00:31:25,730 Jay Stratton is there 666 00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:28,140 in this Travis Taylor 667 00:31:34,190 --> 00:31:31,200 who is uh featured and goes on tour with 668 00:31:35,510 --> 00:31:34,200 the show Ancient Aliens 669 00:31:37,730 --> 00:31:35,520 right 670 00:31:40,730 --> 00:31:37,740 and 671 00:31:44,149 --> 00:31:40,740 it got around to them being asked uh 672 00:31:47,330 --> 00:31:44,159 what's the deal with the 2019 uh UFO 673 00:31:50,510 --> 00:31:47,340 events I mean what what's happened you 674 00:31:52,669 --> 00:31:50,520 know before this was they were debunked 675 00:31:54,769 --> 00:31:52,679 by people like Mick West and others 676 00:31:56,630 --> 00:31:54,779 saying that they were just stars and the 677 00:31:59,210 --> 00:31:56,640 triangles that you see were just a bokeh 678 00:32:01,070 --> 00:31:59,220 effect which is which made them 679 00:32:02,810 --> 00:32:01,080 triangles 680 00:32:05,450 --> 00:32:02,820 and all this 681 00:32:07,190 --> 00:32:05,460 so Stratton and Taylor are asked about 682 00:32:09,590 --> 00:32:07,200 this at aling company and they say 683 00:32:11,630 --> 00:32:09,600 that's bull crap 684 00:32:13,789 --> 00:32:11,640 you know um 685 00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:13,799 that's not the case you know we did our 686 00:32:18,110 --> 00:32:16,080 due diligence we investigated this and 687 00:32:22,190 --> 00:32:18,120 and we wouldn't have had our ducks in a 688 00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:22,200 row uh to brief people like um about the 689 00:32:26,269 --> 00:32:25,200 case and such if if we didn't if we 690 00:32:29,149 --> 00:32:26,279 weren't prepared to answer every 691 00:32:33,590 --> 00:32:29,159 question uh it's not Boca 692 00:32:38,810 --> 00:32:36,889 you know to me first of all that even if 693 00:32:40,430 --> 00:32:38,820 they were stars or whatever that only 694 00:32:42,769 --> 00:32:40,440 covers like a couple of the objects 695 00:32:44,510 --> 00:32:42,779 right and and there was a lot more if 696 00:32:46,190 --> 00:32:44,520 you 697 00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:46,200 um follow this case at all there's a 698 00:32:50,330 --> 00:32:48,000 website called the drive that wrote a 699 00:32:52,010 --> 00:32:50,340 really good breakdown of this case 700 00:32:53,930 --> 00:32:52,020 um if you want someone like 701 00:32:56,590 --> 00:32:53,940 you know outside of who released 702 00:33:00,590 --> 00:32:56,600 information and not government you know 703 00:33:03,230 --> 00:33:00,600 that's a good website to check it out 704 00:33:05,090 --> 00:33:03,240 but there's been uh 705 00:33:06,889 --> 00:33:05,100 so then basically that comes out and 706 00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:06,899 then Christopher sharp Liberation times 707 00:33:12,169 --> 00:33:10,320 I think it was them or him uh emailed 708 00:33:17,509 --> 00:33:12,179 Susan Goff 709 00:33:19,789 --> 00:33:17,519 about it and she said that they stand by 710 00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:19,799 the testimony at the Congressional 711 00:33:22,909 --> 00:33:21,840 hearings which I just told you they said 712 00:33:25,070 --> 00:33:22,919 they were 713 00:33:27,889 --> 00:33:25,080 um drones and such 714 00:33:29,450 --> 00:33:27,899 so if Jeremy Corbell who has put 715 00:33:31,970 --> 00:33:29,460 um who has been the face of this case 716 00:33:33,850 --> 00:33:31,980 basically he was all over the news 717 00:33:36,049 --> 00:33:33,860 with this with the green 718 00:33:40,430 --> 00:33:36,059 triangles you know what I'm talking 719 00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:42,950 so whatever so why am I talking about 720 00:33:52,669 --> 00:33:48,470 the thing why I'm why I'm talking about 721 00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:55,850 because there's there's recently been 722 00:34:01,070 --> 00:33:57,840 um 723 00:34:03,590 --> 00:34:01,080 kind of uh debate about Jay stretton 724 00:34:05,330 --> 00:34:03,600 coming out and and saying so he said 725 00:34:07,250 --> 00:34:05,340 that 726 00:34:10,070 --> 00:34:07,260 the government's lying to you they're 727 00:34:12,169 --> 00:34:10,080 misrepresenting the information they're 728 00:34:13,550 --> 00:34:12,179 not being truthful to you so at the 729 00:34:15,409 --> 00:34:13,560 hearings he's saying they were not being 730 00:34:17,389 --> 00:34:15,419 truthful they were lying it's Chase 731 00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:17,399 threatened right 732 00:34:21,770 --> 00:34:19,919 so it's been said like is that the best 733 00:34:28,730 --> 00:34:21,780 place for Jay Stratton to come out and 734 00:34:32,990 --> 00:34:31,190 you know and and 735 00:34:34,970 --> 00:34:33,000 you know this this whole kind of 736 00:34:37,129 --> 00:34:34,980 scenario came up before when Travis 737 00:34:39,710 --> 00:34:37,139 Taylor revealed himself as the head 738 00:34:41,089 --> 00:34:39,720 scientist of the UAP task force for the 739 00:34:44,810 --> 00:34:41,099 government people were like he's on 740 00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:44,820 Ancient Aliens this doesn't look good 741 00:34:50,810 --> 00:34:47,760 doesn't look good for the community 742 00:34:53,210 --> 00:34:50,820 this guy's on Ancient Aliens like he's 743 00:34:54,649 --> 00:34:53,220 he's whatever he's doing he's 744 00:34:56,510 --> 00:34:54,659 um you know 745 00:34:58,849 --> 00:34:56,520 um 746 00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:58,859 you know it it seems like it'd be clear 747 00:35:02,270 --> 00:35:00,480 that he'd want them to be aliens because 748 00:35:04,490 --> 00:35:02,280 it further his career in the ancient 749 00:35:05,930 --> 00:35:04,500 alien world basically 750 00:35:08,690 --> 00:35:05,940 right 751 00:35:11,329 --> 00:35:08,700 I worked for the UAP task force I looked 752 00:35:14,810 --> 00:35:11,339 at these UFOs they were legitimate UFOs 753 00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:14,820 whatever you know so on and so forth 754 00:35:19,310 --> 00:35:17,520 and at the time when that happened I I 755 00:35:22,250 --> 00:35:19,320 didn't really care you know the guy has 756 00:35:24,890 --> 00:35:22,260 a rich education 757 00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:24,900 you know you really wouldn't want you 758 00:35:28,490 --> 00:35:26,880 know education wise you really couldn't 759 00:35:31,010 --> 00:35:28,500 ask for a better person to be looking at 760 00:35:34,730 --> 00:35:32,930 so I was like whatever who cares you 761 00:35:40,069 --> 00:35:34,740 know it's not fair to 762 00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:42,170 so whatever so then this Jay Stratton 763 00:35:49,849 --> 00:35:47,510 and he did do an interview with the 764 00:35:52,490 --> 00:35:49,859 corbel and Knapp and in the first time 765 00:35:55,690 --> 00:35:52,500 he comes out to talk to the public 766 00:36:00,710 --> 00:35:55,700 it's at aliencon which is put together 767 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:03,710 you know 768 00:36:09,290 --> 00:36:06,349 and 769 00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:09,300 there's a little bit of irony in all 770 00:36:15,589 --> 00:36:11,280 this 771 00:36:19,069 --> 00:36:15,599 If You Remember When the UFO report came 772 00:36:21,530 --> 00:36:19,079 out earlier uh this year 773 00:36:24,829 --> 00:36:21,540 there were people 774 00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:24,839 there were you know newsmen and and you 775 00:36:29,810 --> 00:36:26,400 know websites like the New York Times or 776 00:36:32,829 --> 00:36:29,820 whatever uh came out and I forget Julian 777 00:36:36,650 --> 00:36:32,839 Barnes this guy's name he authored uh 778 00:36:38,210 --> 00:36:36,660 something and it was you could tell it 779 00:36:40,970 --> 00:36:38,220 was really important to him in his 780 00:36:42,650 --> 00:36:40,980 article that he wrote about this 781 00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:42,660 upcoming report which was not out yet 782 00:36:48,170 --> 00:36:46,079 that space aliens and those are his 783 00:36:50,990 --> 00:36:48,180 words space aliens 784 00:36:52,670 --> 00:36:51,000 are not a thing 785 00:36:56,329 --> 00:36:52,680 that's not a part of any of these 786 00:36:59,870 --> 00:36:56,339 objects space aliens 787 00:37:01,970 --> 00:36:59,880 so not truly unidentified or you know 788 00:37:06,410 --> 00:37:01,980 weird objects or whatever I don't know 789 00:37:08,690 --> 00:37:06,420 what they are no he said space aliens 790 00:37:11,690 --> 00:37:08,700 and Mick West 791 00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:11,700 always uses that too aliens people want 792 00:37:19,849 --> 00:37:17,510 other news outlets would say that too 793 00:37:22,030 --> 00:37:19,859 there's no aliens ruled out 794 00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:22,040 extraterrestrial with these balloons 795 00:37:28,730 --> 00:37:25,920 extraterrestrial ruled out the you know 796 00:37:31,130 --> 00:37:28,740 the head of the the Pentagon press 797 00:37:33,170 --> 00:37:31,140 office or whatever comes out when the 798 00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:33,180 balloon thing happened it says they're 799 00:37:41,630 --> 00:37:37,200 not extraterrestrial you know 800 00:37:43,670 --> 00:37:41,640 no aliens and there were people 801 00:37:45,650 --> 00:37:43,680 you know and I would say in the in the 802 00:37:47,810 --> 00:37:45,660 Twitter crowd or whatever that would and 803 00:37:50,030 --> 00:37:47,820 I was included 804 00:37:53,690 --> 00:37:50,040 like no one cares about it well I don't 805 00:37:56,690 --> 00:37:55,430 you know they're unknowns we don't know 806 00:38:00,109 --> 00:37:56,700 what they are they're inner airspace 807 00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:04,370 you're using aliens to to basically uh 808 00:38:10,370 --> 00:38:07,680 tarnish the the subject in the work and 809 00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:10,380 to make people look stupid 810 00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:14,400 these people they believe in aliens 811 00:38:20,329 --> 00:38:17,520 you know they believe in space aliens 812 00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:20,339 they're Goofy 813 00:38:24,050 --> 00:38:21,839 you know and I take that personally 814 00:38:26,030 --> 00:38:24,060 because that's not how I feel and that's 815 00:38:27,950 --> 00:38:26,040 not how a lot of people feel they're 816 00:38:29,690 --> 00:38:27,960 just worried 817 00:38:31,490 --> 00:38:29,700 well I don't know if they're worried as 818 00:38:33,530 --> 00:38:31,500 much as interested that there's these 819 00:38:36,410 --> 00:38:33,540 unidentified objects which we know go 820 00:38:40,130 --> 00:38:36,420 back decades 821 00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:42,710 and and ridicule it and stigmatize it 822 00:38:51,890 --> 00:38:49,970 those words you know when that's not 823 00:38:55,130 --> 00:38:51,900 truly representative why a lot of people 824 00:38:55,140 --> 00:38:58,430 so that happens 825 00:39:05,089 --> 00:39:00,589 and then these people come out like Jay 826 00:39:09,770 --> 00:39:08,150 and they're a part of ones on Ancient 827 00:39:12,530 --> 00:39:09,780 Aliens and goes on tour around the 828 00:39:15,890 --> 00:39:12,540 country with a show called Ancient 829 00:39:23,690 --> 00:39:20,510 which I think is just a ridiculous show 830 00:39:28,910 --> 00:39:23,700 it's interesting I guess sometimes but 831 00:39:34,010 --> 00:39:31,490 and the other guy comes out 832 00:39:39,170 --> 00:39:34,020 in this first public appearance is on 833 00:39:39,180 --> 00:39:42,410 so 834 00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:44,450 these people 835 00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:50,450 you know whether they like it or not 836 00:39:56,690 --> 00:39:53,760 it's adding to the stigma 837 00:40:00,170 --> 00:39:56,700 you know now we have no pot to pee in as 838 00:40:00,829 --> 00:40:00,180 far as space aliens is concerned you 839 00:40:02,690 --> 00:40:00,839 know 840 00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:02,700 because you have people from the UAP 841 00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:05,280 task force who studied this stuff that 842 00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:08,640 love the alien aspect 843 00:40:13,010 --> 00:40:11,040 that are going on alien con that are on 844 00:40:16,970 --> 00:40:13,020 shows called Ancient Aliens and tour the 845 00:40:22,609 --> 00:40:19,310 you know 846 00:40:25,849 --> 00:40:22,619 so any in the middle 847 00:40:31,370 --> 00:40:28,609 are just like forget it it makes it 848 00:40:34,370 --> 00:40:31,380 harder for me or somebody else to be 849 00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:34,380 into this topic publicly 850 00:40:40,490 --> 00:40:36,720 because what is public 851 00:40:44,750 --> 00:40:40,500 is space aliens alien con Ancient Aliens 852 00:40:51,410 --> 00:40:46,609 you know 853 00:40:56,750 --> 00:40:53,210 now if aliens are real and they have 854 00:40:59,390 --> 00:40:56,760 evidence of that cool man show us 855 00:41:01,849 --> 00:40:59,400 but I for one 856 00:41:04,069 --> 00:41:01,859 don't think there is proof that there's 857 00:41:08,030 --> 00:41:04,079 aliens or extraterrestrials 858 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:12,170 I don't think there is 859 00:41:17,210 --> 00:41:14,750 so I initially called this episode 860 00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:17,220 castles made of sand and I changed it 861 00:41:21,050 --> 00:41:19,200 and I called it that for a reason I 862 00:41:23,630 --> 00:41:21,060 called it that because 863 00:41:25,970 --> 00:41:23,640 this disclosure Castle this more 864 00:41:29,150 --> 00:41:25,980 information this house that we're trying 865 00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:29,160 to build is made of sand 866 00:41:34,010 --> 00:41:31,680 because we people keep coming out there 867 00:41:37,550 --> 00:41:34,020 and doing alien stuff 868 00:41:39,650 --> 00:41:37,560 and publicity stuff 869 00:41:47,690 --> 00:41:39,660 and it's a castle made of sand that can 870 00:41:52,250 --> 00:41:50,089 and we have people coming out and saying 871 00:41:55,069 --> 00:41:52,260 things like 872 00:41:56,990 --> 00:41:55,079 whether it's protector or Gates or or 873 00:41:59,210 --> 00:41:57,000 Jeremy Corbell they come out and there's 874 00:42:01,190 --> 00:41:59,220 back engineering to this stuff and and I 875 00:42:04,210 --> 00:42:01,200 have information and Lockheed and all 876 00:42:09,770 --> 00:42:07,310 and just show me man it's time to prove 877 00:42:14,329 --> 00:42:11,690 I'm not saying it's not true but you got 878 00:42:16,910 --> 00:42:14,339 to prove it now 879 00:42:20,690 --> 00:42:16,920 because this Castle is made of sand at 880 00:42:20,700 --> 00:42:26,930 and it can just be pushed over 881 00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:30,589 and you know so 882 00:42:35,210 --> 00:42:32,400 I wanted to talk about that because of 883 00:42:37,849 --> 00:42:35,220 the irony in it and how space aliens was 884 00:42:40,490 --> 00:42:37,859 just such a big thing when this Barnes 885 00:42:43,069 --> 00:42:40,500 came out to like make fun of 886 00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:43,079 the subject and people are paying 887 00:42:48,170 --> 00:42:44,880 attention to it 888 00:42:49,849 --> 00:42:48,180 and we kind of like I at least was one 889 00:42:52,730 --> 00:42:49,859 of the people that kind of tried to come 890 00:42:54,410 --> 00:42:52,740 back that and say no like I'm not here 891 00:42:56,690 --> 00:42:54,420 because of space aliens I'm here because 892 00:42:58,910 --> 00:42:56,700 I've a witness to something strange and 893 00:43:03,170 --> 00:42:58,920 I have no idea what it is 894 00:43:07,130 --> 00:43:05,750 and I get labeled as a you know space 895 00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:07,140 alien guy 896 00:43:11,809 --> 00:43:09,839 because of people like Julian Barnes 897 00:43:13,609 --> 00:43:11,819 and I can't fight back against that 898 00:43:14,990 --> 00:43:13,619 because the people who studied this 899 00:43:17,930 --> 00:43:15,000 stuff 900 00:43:22,849 --> 00:43:17,940 the UAP task force 901 00:43:27,410 --> 00:43:24,170 you know 902 00:43:29,809 --> 00:43:27,420 that just makes it complicated 903 00:43:32,030 --> 00:43:29,819 and then Jay Stratton is also going to 904 00:43:35,109 --> 00:43:32,040 be I've heard at least is also going to 905 00:43:39,109 --> 00:43:35,119 be joining Travis Taylor on the TV show 906 00:43:44,990 --> 00:43:42,290 let me tell you something if I was 907 00:43:48,530 --> 00:43:45,000 leaving the UAP task force 908 00:43:50,510 --> 00:43:48,540 and there were Congressional hearings 909 00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:50,520 you know where they're saying this case 910 00:43:55,010 --> 00:43:53,280 that you studied is Chinese drones there 911 00:43:57,410 --> 00:43:55,020 was a news report that Tom Rogan put out 912 00:43:59,569 --> 00:43:57,420 with Anonymous sources which I hate so 913 00:44:01,730 --> 00:43:59,579 who knows but that said that he was 914 00:44:04,190 --> 00:44:01,740 biased Jay Stratton wasn't Taylor and 915 00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:04,200 said that they tried to make you know 916 00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:12,890 because of their bias 917 00:44:17,569 --> 00:44:14,880 and then they come out and do alien gun 918 00:44:21,290 --> 00:44:17,579 and and you know 919 00:44:23,630 --> 00:44:21,300 TV stuff so if I was chased red and 920 00:44:25,130 --> 00:44:23,640 which obviously I'm not and I don't know 921 00:44:27,470 --> 00:44:25,140 the guy personally 922 00:44:29,329 --> 00:44:27,480 and he can make his own decisions you 923 00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:29,339 know don't get me wrong on that you know 924 00:44:34,730 --> 00:44:32,640 this is just my opinion it might take 925 00:44:36,410 --> 00:44:34,740 and I understand if people disagree with 926 00:44:37,370 --> 00:44:36,420 it because you can have your own 927 00:44:39,770 --> 00:44:37,380 opinions 928 00:44:43,190 --> 00:44:39,780 obviously 929 00:44:46,670 --> 00:44:43,200 but if you're here and you're watching 930 00:44:50,150 --> 00:44:46,680 that makes me think you're interested 931 00:44:52,490 --> 00:44:50,160 so if I was Jay Stratton what I would do 932 00:44:58,250 --> 00:44:52,500 if they're completely wrong 933 00:45:03,109 --> 00:45:01,010 you know and I know people disagree with 934 00:45:04,670 --> 00:45:03,119 me and I know some very loud people that 935 00:45:06,589 --> 00:45:04,680 will disagree with me 936 00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:06,599 and I could really be asking for it here 937 00:45:10,609 --> 00:45:08,160 but you know what I don't care because 938 00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:10,619 I'm authentic and I try to give my true 939 00:45:15,589 --> 00:45:13,440 opinion no matter what and if I get run 940 00:45:18,170 --> 00:45:15,599 out of this space because of that then 941 00:45:21,710 --> 00:45:18,180 whatever fine 942 00:45:24,829 --> 00:45:21,720 but I'm not going to betray my integrity 943 00:45:29,809 --> 00:45:24,839 what I would do 944 00:45:35,930 --> 00:45:33,109 I would go to a news source 945 00:45:37,609 --> 00:45:35,940 and break this story and you wonder why 946 00:45:39,770 --> 00:45:37,619 the news media doesn't take this 947 00:45:41,530 --> 00:45:39,780 seriously because when stuff comes up 948 00:45:45,589 --> 00:45:41,540 like that they don't get the story 949 00:45:48,770 --> 00:45:47,270 and now they're supposed to you know 950 00:45:51,770 --> 00:45:48,780 what they're supposed to bring this guy 951 00:45:53,630 --> 00:45:51,780 on to the news here you said it this is 952 00:45:55,849 --> 00:45:53,640 CNN we're here with Jay Stratton you 953 00:45:58,849 --> 00:45:55,859 said it aliencon 954 00:46:02,510 --> 00:45:58,859 that the Pentagon was was being uh 955 00:46:07,069 --> 00:46:02,520 deceptible and not being truthful 956 00:46:16,309 --> 00:46:10,490 it's a castle made of sand 957 00:46:19,609 --> 00:46:17,750 you know 958 00:46:21,530 --> 00:46:19,619 if we want this to be taken seriously 959 00:46:22,849 --> 00:46:21,540 and I do 960 00:46:24,589 --> 00:46:22,859 obviously 961 00:46:26,510 --> 00:46:24,599 but if people like that want this to be 962 00:46:28,069 --> 00:46:26,520 taken seriously you have to take a 963 00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:28,079 serious approach 964 00:46:35,870 --> 00:46:33,410 you know when the Savannah syndrome 965 00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:35,880 thing happened and I don't know if it's 966 00:46:40,010 --> 00:46:37,680 still happening or people are still 967 00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:40,020 getting screwed up by that but but it's 968 00:46:46,130 --> 00:46:42,720 a perfect parallel to to kind of compare 969 00:46:51,290 --> 00:46:49,370 you know when when people uh wanted to 970 00:46:52,730 --> 00:46:51,300 go public with their with their stories 971 00:46:55,490 --> 00:46:52,740 that were part of the state department 972 00:46:57,290 --> 00:46:55,500 or even a CIA doctor 973 00:47:01,849 --> 00:46:57,300 who initially went to investigate it in 974 00:47:05,390 --> 00:47:01,859 Havana who got Havana syndrome himself 975 00:47:10,849 --> 00:47:08,690 they didn't go to a targeted individual 976 00:47:13,370 --> 00:47:10,859 conference which that's a thing targeted 977 00:47:14,809 --> 00:47:13,380 individuals who say you know that the 978 00:47:16,130 --> 00:47:14,819 government's targeting them and putting 979 00:47:17,809 --> 00:47:16,140 voices in their head and all that stuff 980 00:47:20,450 --> 00:47:17,819 and I'm not saying it's not real I'm 981 00:47:22,970 --> 00:47:20,460 just using it as an example they didn't 982 00:47:24,170 --> 00:47:22,980 go to a targeted individual podcast or 983 00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:24,180 conference 984 00:47:28,970 --> 00:47:27,119 to say this stuff 985 00:47:31,250 --> 00:47:28,980 or start their own targeted individual 986 00:47:33,470 --> 00:47:31,260 podcast 987 00:47:35,809 --> 00:47:33,480 they went to news sources 988 00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:35,819 they went to CNN 989 00:47:42,349 --> 00:47:38,160 they 990 00:47:42,359 --> 00:47:45,770 you know 991 00:47:51,710 --> 00:47:48,290 that's what they did 992 00:47:53,630 --> 00:47:51,720 and that's what we have to do in in this 993 00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:53,640 world 994 00:47:57,710 --> 00:47:55,200 vfos 995 00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:57,720 if we want it to be taken seriously now 996 00:48:01,550 --> 00:47:59,280 did that help 997 00:48:03,109 --> 00:48:01,560 I know they have Vanna syndrome thing I 998 00:48:04,970 --> 00:48:03,119 don't know if it helped I don't it 999 00:48:06,829 --> 00:48:04,980 doesn't seem like it did 1000 00:48:09,109 --> 00:48:06,839 to be honest so 1001 00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:09,119 you know I don't know 1002 00:48:15,470 --> 00:48:12,240 but I'm just saying like if if we people 1003 00:48:18,349 --> 00:48:15,480 changed Stratton even said that they 1004 00:48:20,930 --> 00:48:18,359 changed it from UFO to UAP because of 1005 00:48:22,250 --> 00:48:20,940 this stigma to get more people reporting 1006 00:48:23,930 --> 00:48:22,260 these things 1007 00:48:26,510 --> 00:48:23,940 because people didn't want to be labeled 1008 00:48:28,430 --> 00:48:26,520 as nuts reporting UFOs and then you go 1009 00:48:30,170 --> 00:48:28,440 out and 1010 00:48:33,530 --> 00:48:30,180 the first public appearance is on 1011 00:48:41,390 --> 00:48:36,770 you know 1012 00:48:43,550 --> 00:48:41,400 I know people are going to hate that 1013 00:48:46,730 --> 00:48:43,560 opinion and I'm sorry 1014 00:48:48,650 --> 00:48:46,740 like I'm not judging somebody based on 1015 00:48:50,690 --> 00:48:48,660 that decision it's not like I'm saying 1016 00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:50,700 Jay Stratton isn't a brilliant person 1017 00:48:58,430 --> 00:48:53,760 and he didn't really study UFOs and he's 1018 00:49:04,130 --> 00:49:01,910 he seems like a really smart person who 1019 00:49:07,010 --> 00:49:04,140 has a lot more information on this than 1020 00:49:10,490 --> 00:49:07,020 you know than I do 1021 00:49:12,170 --> 00:49:10,500 you know and is a lot more educated 1022 00:49:13,790 --> 00:49:12,180 for sure 1023 00:49:15,349 --> 00:49:13,800 you know 1024 00:49:17,150 --> 00:49:15,359 I'm just saying 1025 00:49:19,609 --> 00:49:17,160 that I don't think 1026 00:49:21,589 --> 00:49:19,619 first public appearance you do should be 1027 00:49:22,849 --> 00:49:21,599 an alien con and now that he's out why 1028 00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:22,859 is he not you know something I thought 1029 00:49:29,329 --> 00:49:24,960 about is Lou Elizondo is out there 1030 00:49:33,349 --> 00:49:30,589 you know 1031 00:49:35,870 --> 00:49:33,359 in the public 1032 00:49:38,210 --> 00:49:35,880 for years 1033 00:49:39,950 --> 00:49:38,220 he was on CNN all the news channels he 1034 00:49:41,630 --> 00:49:39,960 went out of his way to do each and every 1035 00:49:43,490 --> 00:49:41,640 podcast that he could no matter how many 1036 00:49:45,050 --> 00:49:43,500 followers they have and I haven't heard 1037 00:49:46,730 --> 00:49:45,060 of peep from Jay Stratton about Lou 1038 00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:46,740 Elizondo 1039 00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:49,200 nothing about yeah he really did atip or 1040 00:49:53,210 --> 00:49:50,880 yeah he is who he says he is or yeah 1041 00:49:55,250 --> 00:49:53,220 he's a good guy or yeah he did really 1042 00:49:59,210 --> 00:49:55,260 good work nothing 1043 00:49:59,220 --> 00:50:03,170 why is that 1044 00:50:03,180 --> 00:50:06,290 it's just weird 1045 00:50:10,790 --> 00:50:08,569 so the whole thing is really weird to me 1046 00:50:13,250 --> 00:50:10,800 because if you look at it from the 1047 00:50:14,990 --> 00:50:13,260 outside it seems like the person is more 1048 00:50:18,589 --> 00:50:15,000 interested 1049 00:50:23,630 --> 00:50:21,470 being on TV shows and doing alien con 1050 00:50:26,750 --> 00:50:23,640 which is so funny alien con right the 1051 00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:28,130 then 1052 00:50:34,309 --> 00:50:32,809 trying to get people that take it 1053 00:50:36,170 --> 00:50:34,319 seriously and do I have all the answers 1054 00:50:38,510 --> 00:50:36,180 no and is there more stuff going on in 1055 00:50:39,530 --> 00:50:38,520 the background than I know hell yeah of 1056 00:50:41,870 --> 00:50:39,540 course 1057 00:50:44,569 --> 00:50:41,880 but I'm not an Insider 1058 00:50:47,390 --> 00:50:44,579 you know all I have to do and judge 1059 00:50:50,630 --> 00:50:47,400 things by is what I perceive them to be 1060 00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:52,549 you know and I consider myself a pretty 1061 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,630 you know 1062 00:51:05,809 --> 00:51:01,670 speaking of castles made of sand it the 1063 00:51:10,849 --> 00:51:07,849 you know to go backwards a little bit 1064 00:51:13,970 --> 00:51:10,859 like the Susan Goff thing like she came 1065 00:51:16,549 --> 00:51:13,980 out a while ago and said something about 1066 00:51:20,510 --> 00:51:16,559 um she was asked about Lou Elizondo in 1067 00:51:22,069 --> 00:51:20,520 his uh you know working at atip 1068 00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:22,079 you know the advanced Aerospace threat 1069 00:51:25,609 --> 00:51:23,760 identification program and she said that 1070 00:51:27,410 --> 00:51:25,619 he had no 1071 00:51:29,630 --> 00:51:27,420 um I know there's like words are really 1072 00:51:31,130 --> 00:51:29,640 important here so I hope I I'm probably 1073 00:51:33,530 --> 00:51:31,140 going to screw it up but basically she 1074 00:51:36,290 --> 00:51:33,540 said he had no assigned responsibilities 1075 00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:36,300 for atip right and that was like a huge 1076 00:51:43,190 --> 00:51:40,559 thing that um you know debunkers would 1077 00:51:45,170 --> 00:51:43,200 use against him was she said he never 1078 00:51:47,450 --> 00:51:45,180 worked there he's lying he's full of 1079 00:51:48,710 --> 00:51:47,460 crap you know and then Harry Reid 1080 00:51:50,450 --> 00:51:48,720 actually 1081 00:51:52,609 --> 00:51:50,460 you know wrote a letter backing him up 1082 00:51:55,130 --> 00:51:52,619 and everything which you know I think 1083 00:51:57,470 --> 00:51:55,140 means a lot but those debunkers wasn't 1084 00:52:00,589 --> 00:51:57,480 good enough for them whatever 1085 00:52:02,450 --> 00:52:00,599 and people you know accuse her of of uh 1086 00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:02,460 you know being misinformation or 1087 00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:05,760 whatever and and she's lying and you 1088 00:52:09,530 --> 00:52:07,680 know Lou Elizondo actually did a huge 1089 00:52:13,790 --> 00:52:09,540 complaint with the IG talking about a 1090 00:52:20,290 --> 00:52:15,290 it still works there 1091 00:52:24,770 --> 00:52:22,430 the dod 1092 00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:24,780 after all this and I think it's probably 1093 00:52:32,750 --> 00:52:26,400 been more than a couple years this 1094 00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:34,609 so 1095 00:52:40,190 --> 00:52:38,160 you know whoever 1096 00:52:42,349 --> 00:52:40,200 you know really doesn't want any more of 1097 00:52:46,130 --> 00:52:42,359 this information coming up is definitely 1098 00:52:46,140 --> 00:52:51,410 and how you're going to get past that 1099 00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:53,690 I just think that's uh important to keep 1100 00:53:01,730 --> 00:52:59,210 so I'm doing this show 1101 00:53:03,410 --> 00:53:01,740 um ALS also because like I I want to 1102 00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:03,420 event a little bit about some of the 1103 00:53:07,010 --> 00:53:05,760 things that frustrate me 1104 00:53:09,170 --> 00:53:07,020 um which 1105 00:53:11,390 --> 00:53:09,180 you know might be used against me on 1106 00:53:14,030 --> 00:53:11,400 Twitter at some point or whatever I 1107 00:53:17,390 --> 00:53:14,040 don't care I'm just trying to be 1108 00:53:18,710 --> 00:53:17,400 responsible and you know as for some 1109 00:53:21,109 --> 00:53:18,720 truth you know 1110 00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:21,119 another thing that kind of uh 1111 00:53:26,329 --> 00:53:24,480 is is irritating and this is 1112 00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:26,339 you know as far as like getting videos 1113 00:53:31,790 --> 00:53:28,319 and stuff 1114 00:53:33,290 --> 00:53:31,800 of UFOs or unidentifieds like this whole 1115 00:53:35,510 --> 00:53:33,300 thing started with three Navy videos 1116 00:53:38,750 --> 00:53:35,520 that came out 1117 00:53:42,109 --> 00:53:38,760 and that was like five years ago man 1118 00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:43,309 um 1119 00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:44,880 and we don't get any 1120 00:53:47,809 --> 00:53:46,559 those balloons that were recently shot 1121 00:53:50,089 --> 00:53:47,819 down 1122 00:53:52,670 --> 00:53:50,099 Vinnie disclosure team just did a great 1123 00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:52,680 podcast with uh Tim McMillan where where 1124 00:53:57,890 --> 00:53:54,960 he said McMillan said that he knew for a 1125 00:54:00,770 --> 00:53:57,900 fact that none 1126 00:54:03,170 --> 00:54:00,780 of the Congress people or whatever have 1127 00:54:06,950 --> 00:54:03,180 seen any video or footage he knew that 1128 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,130 right 1129 00:54:14,630 --> 00:54:12,530 and here we are the Chinese balloon 1130 00:54:17,390 --> 00:54:14,640 thing first of all 1131 00:54:21,349 --> 00:54:17,400 Crystal Clear video comes out or I don't 1132 00:54:27,849 --> 00:54:23,750 just recently a Reaper drone I'm sure 1133 00:54:35,690 --> 00:54:30,650 gets clipped by a Russian jet 1134 00:54:47,150 --> 00:54:38,390 and we get a fantastic video of it 1135 00:54:53,809 --> 00:54:50,329 and we can't see any 1136 00:54:55,970 --> 00:54:53,819 unidentified videos the one we got was 1137 00:54:57,530 --> 00:54:55,980 in the hearings which was a blip of a 1138 00:55:01,069 --> 00:54:57,540 tiny little thing 1139 00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:03,950 so you need to know you have a Twitter 1140 00:55:08,089 --> 00:55:06,000 or people who pay attention to this and 1141 00:55:10,609 --> 00:55:08,099 want more transparency 1142 00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:10,619 you need to know what the Air Force what 1143 00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:13,200 the Department of Defense thinks of 1144 00:55:21,650 --> 00:55:18,000 those requests they do not give a 1145 00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:21,660 they can release video when they want to 1146 00:55:27,290 --> 00:55:23,760 and they just did 1147 00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:27,300 and they are spitting in our coffee 1148 00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:34,670 they don't care 1149 00:55:39,290 --> 00:55:37,490 video classified sensors whatever you 1150 00:55:42,349 --> 00:55:39,300 know we're in a weird territory whatever 1151 00:55:45,470 --> 00:55:42,359 well actually when it matters to us 1152 00:55:47,870 --> 00:55:45,480 yeah we'll release it 1153 00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:47,880 when it doesn't matter we're not going 1154 00:55:51,890 --> 00:55:49,920 to 1155 00:55:54,890 --> 00:55:51,900 and it doesn't matter 1156 00:55:56,390 --> 00:55:54,900 the UFO videos or photos it doesn't 1157 00:55:58,430 --> 00:55:56,400 matter to them they're not going to 1158 00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:58,440 release it 1159 00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:00,240 and that 1160 00:56:09,650 --> 00:56:05,750 not that I think a video would change 1161 00:56:15,970 --> 00:56:12,109 you know video I think people are just 1162 00:56:21,530 --> 00:56:18,290 you know what difference is it going to 1163 00:56:25,069 --> 00:56:21,540 make but so 1164 00:56:27,109 --> 00:56:25,079 you know we have all this stuff going on 1165 00:56:29,630 --> 00:56:27,119 all this crap 1166 00:56:31,370 --> 00:56:29,640 yeah and on Twitter like uh somebody 1167 00:56:34,190 --> 00:56:31,380 said you know the thing about Jay 1168 00:56:36,109 --> 00:56:34,200 Stratton going on aliencon and no I 1169 00:56:37,849 --> 00:56:36,119 don't think that's a great idea but um 1170 00:56:39,710 --> 00:56:37,859 to finish that thought 1171 00:56:44,089 --> 00:56:39,720 um I I retweeted and said I don't care 1172 00:56:49,549 --> 00:56:46,970 I want hearings 1173 00:56:52,370 --> 00:56:49,559 meaning like I don't care what these 1174 00:56:54,530 --> 00:56:52,380 guys do I don't care if Travis Taylor is 1175 00:56:56,809 --> 00:56:54,540 the face of Ancient Aliens forever and 1176 00:56:59,390 --> 00:56:56,819 there's alien cons all over the place 1177 00:57:01,790 --> 00:56:59,400 and Jay Stratton dresses up in a gray 1178 00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:01,800 alien suit and 1179 00:57:08,030 --> 00:57:05,520 um you know Travis Taylor his bedroom is 1180 00:57:09,890 --> 00:57:08,040 all just alien E.T stuff spaceships all 1181 00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:09,900 over the place Jeremy Corbell talks 1182 00:57:14,569 --> 00:57:12,720 about Bob Lazar and loves Bob Lazar and 1183 00:57:16,790 --> 00:57:14,579 he's the true blue and everybody else is 1184 00:57:18,770 --> 00:57:16,800 lying whatever I don't care what I want 1185 00:57:20,750 --> 00:57:18,780 is hearings I want hearings 1186 00:57:23,329 --> 00:57:20,760 Congressional hearings on the record 1187 00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:23,339 under oath 1188 00:57:28,790 --> 00:57:26,400 that's what I need that's what we need 1189 00:57:31,670 --> 00:57:28,800 otherwise it's just going to be a huge 1190 00:57:34,130 --> 00:57:31,680 information Gap that just gets filled 1191 00:57:36,109 --> 00:57:34,140 out with nonsense 1192 00:57:38,030 --> 00:57:36,119 or at least gets filled out with things 1193 00:57:40,069 --> 00:57:38,040 that we're not going to be able to 1194 00:57:41,450 --> 00:57:40,079 decipher on our own without more 1195 00:57:44,210 --> 00:57:41,460 information 1196 00:57:46,730 --> 00:57:44,220 we're the victim here 1197 00:57:51,770 --> 00:57:46,740 information gets put out that we cannot 1198 00:57:56,270 --> 00:57:53,750 you know and then we're expected to 1199 00:58:01,069 --> 00:57:56,280 decide how to react to it or what side 1200 00:58:06,890 --> 00:58:03,589 you know and if you don't make the right 1201 00:58:09,470 --> 00:58:06,900 decision you get chastised on Twitter 1202 00:58:11,390 --> 00:58:09,480 you know oh you're a loser all of a 1203 00:58:13,250 --> 00:58:11,400 sudden you get turned into like a racist 1204 00:58:15,950 --> 00:58:13,260 or something like that or or whatever 1205 00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:15,960 you know and one side just says this 1206 00:58:20,510 --> 00:58:17,520 guy's full of crap 1207 00:58:24,530 --> 00:58:22,130 you know 1208 00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:24,540 no there's not enough information to 1209 00:58:34,430 --> 00:58:32,450 that's why we need hearings 1210 00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:34,440 under oath 1211 00:58:38,990 --> 00:58:36,480 in I do not 1212 00:58:42,650 --> 00:58:39,000 I do not 1213 00:58:46,970 --> 00:58:45,470 uh Moultrie and Bray or whoever the hell 1214 00:58:48,410 --> 00:58:46,980 is from the government that were there 1215 00:58:52,490 --> 00:58:48,420 last time I don't want to see them what 1216 00:58:55,609 --> 00:58:52,500 I want to see are witnesses I want Bob 1217 00:58:58,130 --> 00:58:55,619 Solace under oath 1218 00:59:01,430 --> 00:58:58,140 at Congressional hearings telling his 1219 00:59:03,470 --> 00:59:01,440 story about the Maelstrom incident I 1220 00:59:06,710 --> 00:59:03,480 want David fravor there 1221 00:59:10,069 --> 00:59:06,720 telling his story about the Tic Tac and 1222 00:59:12,049 --> 00:59:10,079 Alex Diedrich I want her there telling 1223 00:59:15,410 --> 00:59:12,059 her story 1224 00:59:17,329 --> 00:59:15,420 I want Ryan Graves talking about his 1225 00:59:21,289 --> 00:59:17,339 story 1226 00:59:22,970 --> 00:59:21,299 under oath a national television 1227 00:59:25,010 --> 00:59:22,980 Congressional hearings I want Lou 1228 00:59:29,089 --> 00:59:25,020 Elizondo there 1229 00:59:31,970 --> 00:59:29,099 telling everything he knows Chris Mellon 1230 00:59:33,049 --> 00:59:31,980 and I do want Jay Stratton and Travis 1231 00:59:35,450 --> 00:59:33,059 Taylor 1232 00:59:40,130 --> 00:59:35,460 and Bob Lazar 1233 00:59:42,650 --> 00:59:40,140 under oath at Congressional hearings 1234 00:59:44,329 --> 00:59:42,660 George Knapp Congressional hearings 1235 00:59:47,390 --> 00:59:44,339 under oath 1236 00:59:50,150 --> 00:59:47,400 that's what I want 1237 00:59:53,630 --> 00:59:50,160 because we need to know 1238 00:59:56,510 --> 00:59:53,640 who's lying and who isn't 1239 01:00:00,170 --> 00:59:56,520 with repercussions being 1240 01:00:02,270 --> 01:00:00,180 legal legal repercussions 1241 01:00:03,770 --> 01:00:02,280 and then we'll say then we'll see you 1242 01:00:05,630 --> 01:00:03,780 who says what 1243 01:00:10,190 --> 01:00:05,640 and what their stories are 1244 01:00:16,010 --> 01:00:12,950 it's ridiculous 1245 01:00:19,309 --> 01:00:16,020 and this is what happens 1246 01:00:26,210 --> 01:00:23,990 is not transparent with people 1247 01:00:30,770 --> 01:00:26,220 the Air Force shut down their UFO 1248 01:00:35,930 --> 01:00:30,780 investigation in 1969. 1249 01:00:41,210 --> 01:00:38,390 you know 1250 01:00:43,910 --> 01:00:41,220 Mario Woods Andre says yes he was on the 1251 01:00:45,710 --> 01:00:43,920 show I want that guy to testify under 1252 01:00:47,630 --> 01:00:45,720 oath in front of Congress in front of 1253 01:00:48,470 --> 01:00:47,640 the American people that's what we need 1254 01:00:51,789 --> 01:00:48,480 to do 1255 01:00:55,069 --> 01:00:51,799 we don't and Greer is doing this stupid 1256 01:00:57,589 --> 01:00:55,079 you know press conference thing I don't 1257 01:00:59,750 --> 01:00:57,599 need any more Greer's press 1258 01:01:01,910 --> 01:00:59,760 conference things with some people who 1259 01:01:03,829 --> 01:01:01,920 are aligned some people who know this or 1260 01:01:07,309 --> 01:01:03,839 that we don't need any of that 1261 01:01:09,049 --> 01:01:07,319 what we need is Congressional hearings 1262 01:01:11,630 --> 01:01:09,059 under oath 1263 01:01:13,309 --> 01:01:11,640 with legal ramifications for the ones 1264 01:01:17,030 --> 01:01:13,319 who lie 1265 01:01:23,210 --> 01:01:18,530 so 1266 01:01:27,670 --> 01:01:25,910 because ever since Blue Book closed it's 1267 01:01:31,150 --> 01:01:27,680 been nothing but 1268 01:01:33,910 --> 01:01:31,160 truth mixed with misinformation 1269 01:01:36,109 --> 01:01:33,920 mixed with 1270 01:01:39,470 --> 01:01:36,119 counterintelligence people 1271 01:01:43,250 --> 01:01:39,480 mixed with contractor bullcrap 1272 01:01:45,470 --> 01:01:43,260 story after story after Story and no one 1273 01:01:48,530 --> 01:01:45,480 can make anything of it because it's not 1274 01:01:52,190 --> 01:01:50,390 and some people want official 1275 01:01:54,349 --> 01:01:52,200 information and they'll just cling on to 1276 01:01:58,910 --> 01:01:54,359 whatever is said 1277 01:02:03,650 --> 01:02:01,730 that's not right you know you have these 1278 01:02:05,630 --> 01:02:03,660 people filling in this information void 1279 01:02:07,609 --> 01:02:05,640 with what they want to fill it with you 1280 01:02:11,089 --> 01:02:07,619 know and a lot of that I hate to say it 1281 01:02:16,130 --> 01:02:13,670 um you know like Jacques valet 1282 01:02:18,829 --> 01:02:16,140 and I don't I'm not saying that they're 1283 01:02:22,549 --> 01:02:19,930 foreign 1284 01:02:24,289 --> 01:02:22,559 what I'm saying is people like uh 1285 01:02:26,569 --> 01:02:24,299 they're the ones filling in the 1286 01:02:28,250 --> 01:02:26,579 information Gap Jacque Valley helped 1287 01:02:30,950 --> 01:02:28,260 boot of 1288 01:02:35,030 --> 01:02:30,960 um you know all his books 1289 01:02:36,410 --> 01:02:35,040 um MJ 12 you know alien autopsy films 1290 01:02:38,930 --> 01:02:36,420 they're all filling in this information 1291 01:02:43,010 --> 01:02:38,940 Gap 1292 01:02:44,450 --> 01:02:43,020 Eric Davis the Wilson Davis notes 1293 01:02:46,789 --> 01:02:44,460 and I'm not saying those things aren't 1294 01:02:49,309 --> 01:02:46,799 true but I'm saying I have no idea and 1295 01:02:51,170 --> 01:02:49,319 none of us have any idea and if you are 1296 01:02:53,470 --> 01:02:51,180 saying you do that you're not being 1297 01:02:57,349 --> 01:02:53,480 truthful because it's based on 1298 01:03:01,069 --> 01:02:57,359 everyone's story is that guy said 1299 01:03:07,430 --> 01:03:05,210 everything in Jacque Valley's uh latest 1300 01:03:09,710 --> 01:03:07,440 book 1301 01:03:12,049 --> 01:03:09,720 um his diary that came out 1302 01:03:14,450 --> 01:03:12,059 every story about this stuff whether it 1303 01:03:16,730 --> 01:03:14,460 you know be about crash retrievals or 1304 01:03:19,730 --> 01:03:16,740 authentication Wilson Davis notes it's 1305 01:03:22,190 --> 01:03:19,740 all about him saying that this person 1306 01:03:24,829 --> 01:03:22,200 said to him 1307 01:03:27,109 --> 01:03:24,839 that someone told him something 1308 01:03:28,490 --> 01:03:27,119 Eric Davis told me that this person told 1309 01:03:31,069 --> 01:03:28,500 him something 1310 01:03:33,950 --> 01:03:31,079 this person told me that he told him 1311 01:03:40,730 --> 01:03:35,210 you know 1312 01:03:45,710 --> 01:03:43,910 can't build a case off of it 1313 01:03:48,109 --> 01:03:45,720 you know 1314 01:03:50,329 --> 01:03:48,119 if there's smoke there's fire sure you 1315 01:03:55,630 --> 01:03:50,339 should go looking but you can't count on 1316 01:03:55,640 --> 01:04:01,549 and that's just how I feel about it 1317 01:04:09,109 --> 01:04:05,809 just how I feel about it 1318 01:04:12,530 --> 01:04:09,119 I don't want to offend you Anonymous CT 1319 01:04:17,150 --> 01:04:12,540 um I have researched well I've looked 1320 01:04:20,630 --> 01:04:18,530 um I can't say 1321 01:04:22,609 --> 01:04:20,640 they know everything about them and when 1322 01:04:25,069 --> 01:04:22,619 I say Greer is I just meant 1323 01:04:26,990 --> 01:04:25,079 like we don't need any more civilian-led 1324 01:04:28,430 --> 01:04:27,000 press conferences we need this stuff in 1325 01:04:31,069 --> 01:04:28,440 Congress 1326 01:04:33,230 --> 01:04:31,079 under oath because there are all sorts 1327 01:04:39,349 --> 01:04:33,240 of people who are saying all sorts of 1328 01:04:45,710 --> 01:04:41,210 you know 1329 01:04:50,150 --> 01:04:48,589 it's important to use those claims Katie 1330 01:04:52,130 --> 01:04:50,160 says hello by the way as a starting 1331 01:04:55,130 --> 01:04:52,140 point for research 1332 01:04:57,230 --> 01:04:55,140 um like Jacques Valley's claims for sure 1333 01:04:59,270 --> 01:04:57,240 totally it's a starting point for 1334 01:05:01,010 --> 01:04:59,280 research 1335 01:05:04,250 --> 01:05:01,020 you know and Ross coldheart just said 1336 01:05:06,770 --> 01:05:04,260 this on his latest episode like 1337 01:05:08,450 --> 01:05:06,780 you know what he's not seeing 1338 01:05:10,609 --> 01:05:08,460 which is what should happen is people 1339 01:05:12,710 --> 01:05:10,619 need to start making phone calls 1340 01:05:14,270 --> 01:05:12,720 you can't just go out there and say this 1341 01:05:16,490 --> 01:05:14,280 is true what you have to do if Eric 1342 01:05:18,289 --> 01:05:16,500 Davis got this from George Bush or 1343 01:05:21,710 --> 01:05:18,299 whoever the hell you gotta go call that 1344 01:05:26,630 --> 01:05:21,720 person and try to get it verified 1345 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,870 and he's right 1346 01:05:33,530 --> 01:05:31,010 you know 1347 01:05:35,030 --> 01:05:33,540 not like other people who will just take 1348 01:05:37,670 --> 01:05:35,040 that book 1349 01:05:39,829 --> 01:05:37,680 put on this episode this live stream 1350 01:05:43,010 --> 01:05:39,839 episode and make these neat little flash 1351 01:05:44,750 --> 01:05:43,020 cards and whatever and everybody Praises 1352 01:05:46,730 --> 01:05:44,760 it and says oh my gosh can you believe 1353 01:05:49,250 --> 01:05:46,740 this you read a book and made flash 1354 01:05:53,270 --> 01:05:49,260 cards wow that's amazing 1355 01:05:59,329 --> 01:05:53,280 no call somebody verify the truth 1356 01:05:59,339 --> 01:06:02,270 that's 1357 01:06:05,990 --> 01:06:04,250 and 1358 01:06:07,849 --> 01:06:06,000 you know that's that's just what I'm 1359 01:06:09,470 --> 01:06:07,859 saying you need to do if if you want 1360 01:06:10,609 --> 01:06:09,480 people to take it seriously you know and 1361 01:06:12,049 --> 01:06:10,619 if you don't want people to take it 1362 01:06:14,630 --> 01:06:12,059 seriously then fine 1363 01:06:17,390 --> 01:06:14,640 then you can all just use his diary as 1364 01:06:19,430 --> 01:06:17,400 the Bible and and do what you want but 1365 01:06:22,190 --> 01:06:19,440 you're not going to get people like 1366 01:06:23,390 --> 01:06:22,200 Congress to take that stuff seriously if 1367 01:06:26,270 --> 01:06:23,400 you don't make the phone calls yourself 1368 01:06:28,309 --> 01:06:26,280 and get corroboration 1369 01:06:30,289 --> 01:06:28,319 and that's just how it is and if you 1370 01:06:33,109 --> 01:06:30,299 want to live in reality that's where 1371 01:06:34,490 --> 01:06:33,119 reality lies if you don't want to then 1372 01:06:36,650 --> 01:06:34,500 forget it 1373 01:06:39,170 --> 01:06:36,660 forget everything I'm saying 1374 01:06:39,180 --> 01:06:41,690 so 1375 01:06:48,470 --> 01:06:43,130 you know 1376 01:06:51,650 --> 01:06:48,480 offend anybody or whatever like I'm just 1377 01:06:53,750 --> 01:06:51,660 trying to be as real as I can here 1378 01:06:56,329 --> 01:06:53,760 and people might not agree with me and 1379 01:06:59,329 --> 01:06:56,339 and that's fine 1380 01:07:01,490 --> 01:06:59,339 and 1381 01:07:05,390 --> 01:07:01,500 you know it's I'm in a hard position 1382 01:07:06,770 --> 01:07:05,400 because the the one the one side uh you 1383 01:07:08,809 --> 01:07:06,780 know I want great guests because let's 1384 01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:08,819 be honest like Gary Nolan comes on here 1385 01:07:13,549 --> 01:07:11,280 I get 15 000 views I'm doing this by 1386 01:07:15,650 --> 01:07:13,559 myself I'm lucky to get a thousand 1387 01:07:18,109 --> 01:07:15,660 you know so I have people like that on 1388 01:07:19,730 --> 01:07:18,119 it makes the channel you know bigger and 1389 01:07:22,430 --> 01:07:19,740 there's more people and all that kind of 1390 01:07:25,010 --> 01:07:22,440 stuff and and that's great but sometimes 1391 01:07:27,230 --> 01:07:25,020 it gets to this point where like 1392 01:07:32,510 --> 01:07:27,240 I have to 1393 01:07:35,210 --> 01:07:32,520 honest 1394 01:07:37,250 --> 01:07:35,220 with how I'm really feeling out of fear 1395 01:07:40,490 --> 01:07:37,260 that like maybe I won't be able to get 1396 01:07:44,270 --> 01:07:40,500 that guest or whatever you know and I'll 1397 01:07:46,430 --> 01:07:44,280 just stay here at where I am now 1398 01:07:49,670 --> 01:07:46,440 but in the end 1399 01:07:52,370 --> 01:07:49,680 my Integrity wins out like 1400 01:07:54,470 --> 01:07:52,380 I have to be honest with with how I feel 1401 01:07:56,750 --> 01:07:54,480 and if that means that people don't want 1402 01:07:59,089 --> 01:07:56,760 to be on this show anymore fine you know 1403 01:08:01,010 --> 01:07:59,099 then that's how it is 1404 01:08:06,470 --> 01:08:01,020 and unfortunately I think there maybe is 1405 01:08:14,450 --> 01:08:08,329 you know 1406 01:08:17,809 --> 01:08:14,460 um 1407 01:08:20,269 --> 01:08:17,819 I'm on this the side of disclosure 1408 01:08:21,769 --> 01:08:20,279 people who I know will hate a lot of 1409 01:08:23,870 --> 01:08:21,779 these takes 1410 01:08:27,410 --> 01:08:23,880 I like those people 1411 01:08:32,689 --> 01:08:29,749 and I just disagree 1412 01:08:35,630 --> 01:08:32,699 with how it should be done 1413 01:08:41,390 --> 01:08:35,640 and how information should be ingested 1414 01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:46,010 we have to have an argument 1415 01:08:50,749 --> 01:08:48,050 that you can take to anybody up against 1416 01:08:52,669 --> 01:08:50,759 Midwest and it blows them away 1417 01:08:55,789 --> 01:08:52,679 if you want this topic to be taken 1418 01:08:55,799 --> 01:08:58,910 you know 1419 01:09:04,130 --> 01:09:02,269 if Midwest can convince anybody 1420 01:09:08,329 --> 01:09:04,140 that 1421 01:09:15,590 --> 01:09:13,430 the gimbal is a is a jet or whatever 1422 01:09:21,229 --> 01:09:15,600 the lay person 1423 01:09:25,610 --> 01:09:21,239 that it is a jet and it's not 1424 01:09:31,189 --> 01:09:28,910 you're not we're not getting anywhere 1425 01:09:33,470 --> 01:09:31,199 We're not gonna get anywhere 1426 01:09:36,470 --> 01:09:33,480 like you have we have to be able to blow 1427 01:09:41,990 --> 01:09:38,329 you know and some people think we have 1428 01:09:44,930 --> 01:09:42,000 or whatever and maybe we have but you 1429 01:09:46,789 --> 01:09:44,940 can't ask somebody to read five pages of 1430 01:09:48,410 --> 01:09:46,799 descriptions of why he's wrong to 1431 01:09:50,450 --> 01:09:48,420 convince them 1432 01:09:54,350 --> 01:09:50,460 unless you want Disclosure by the year 1433 01:10:00,530 --> 01:09:56,930 you know people's lives are busy in 1434 01:10:04,850 --> 01:10:00,540 their attention spans are very short 1435 01:10:10,729 --> 01:10:06,950 like there is phenomenal arguments 1436 01:10:13,550 --> 01:10:10,739 against a lot of Midwest stuff 1437 01:10:17,030 --> 01:10:13,560 to the point of where I think 1438 01:10:18,590 --> 01:10:17,040 that Mick is wrong a lot 1439 01:10:21,350 --> 01:10:18,600 or at least it's not proven that he's 1440 01:10:23,510 --> 01:10:21,360 right either you know 1441 01:10:25,370 --> 01:10:23,520 but I have to take a lot of time to 1442 01:10:28,910 --> 01:10:25,380 digest all the information to get to 1443 01:10:32,450 --> 01:10:28,920 that point and no one absolutely no one 1444 01:10:36,110 --> 01:10:32,460 outside of this world is this UFO world 1445 01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:36,120 is going to do that 1446 01:10:40,370 --> 01:10:37,920 they're just going to look at the easier 1447 01:10:42,770 --> 01:10:40,380 thing to digest which is yeah it's a 1448 01:10:44,990 --> 01:10:42,780 bird I can move on with my life 1449 01:10:48,110 --> 01:10:45,000 and it only took me 15 minutes to watch 1450 01:10:53,090 --> 01:10:49,850 you know 1451 01:10:55,370 --> 01:10:53,100 and that's just how the world is 1452 01:10:56,990 --> 01:10:55,380 what would do that 1453 01:11:01,550 --> 01:10:57,000 and what kind of evidence would do that 1454 01:11:09,649 --> 01:11:04,790 you know 1455 01:11:13,310 --> 01:11:09,659 been told about for years whether it be 1456 01:11:15,229 --> 01:11:13,320 a 23 minute video or a video about 50 1457 01:11:18,169 --> 01:11:15,239 feet away from the craft we need to see 1458 01:11:24,290 --> 01:11:20,330 you know and I think our focus should be 1459 01:11:27,550 --> 01:11:26,149 you know people can have whatever Focus 1460 01:11:29,870 --> 01:11:27,560 they want if they want to go out over 1461 01:11:32,630 --> 01:11:29,880 after a crash or streamable stuff fine 1462 01:11:35,930 --> 01:11:32,640 do whatever you want but 1463 01:11:38,330 --> 01:11:35,940 you know I think it needs to be 1464 01:11:41,030 --> 01:11:38,340 um Congressional hearings I guess under 1465 01:11:46,310 --> 01:11:41,040 all so we can you know really 1466 01:11:50,630 --> 01:11:49,430 Eric Davis Congressional hearings Bob 1467 01:11:53,149 --> 01:11:50,640 Bigelow 1468 01:11:55,610 --> 01:11:53,159 Congressional hearings under oath all 1469 01:11:59,090 --> 01:11:55,620 these people need to do that 1470 01:12:00,890 --> 01:11:59,100 and all this hearsay and this guy says 1471 01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:00,900 this and that guy says this needs to be 1472 01:12:08,510 --> 01:12:06,110 because like it affects people's lives 1473 01:12:10,430 --> 01:12:08,520 people live completely different lives 1474 01:12:15,110 --> 01:12:10,440 you know based on some of the things 1475 01:12:23,330 --> 01:12:18,590 and that you know a lot of times there's 1476 01:12:26,330 --> 01:12:24,770 and people go on with their life 1477 01:12:27,770 --> 01:12:26,340 thinking something is a fact when 1478 01:12:30,530 --> 01:12:27,780 they're there's no 1479 01:12:32,390 --> 01:12:30,540 basis for it sometimes you know and 1480 01:12:34,610 --> 01:12:32,400 that's not fair 1481 01:12:37,189 --> 01:12:34,620 and if this stuff does exist you know 1482 01:12:39,709 --> 01:12:37,199 crash retrievals and and all that kind 1483 01:12:41,870 --> 01:12:39,719 of stuff like the same thing like we 1484 01:12:44,990 --> 01:12:41,880 need to know about that it's not fair 1485 01:12:48,830 --> 01:12:47,630 yes I'm sorry it's my curiosity well 1486 01:12:50,930 --> 01:12:48,840 it's my life 1487 01:12:53,149 --> 01:12:50,940 you know and there's a whole lot more 1488 01:12:53,990 --> 01:12:53,159 people in this world that aren't in 1489 01:12:55,550 --> 01:12:54,000 government 1490 01:12:56,810 --> 01:12:55,560 than our 1491 01:13:00,830 --> 01:12:56,820 and 1492 01:13:04,430 --> 01:13:02,990 you know if there were Crash retrievals 1493 01:13:06,050 --> 01:13:04,440 from outer space would you want to know 1494 01:13:07,490 --> 01:13:06,060 yes or no 1495 01:13:10,850 --> 01:13:07,500 um 1496 01:13:13,250 --> 01:13:10,860 I would imagine you know 90 of people 1497 01:13:15,410 --> 01:13:13,260 would say yes 1498 01:13:17,510 --> 01:13:15,420 maybe the 10 or you know just people 1499 01:13:21,410 --> 01:13:17,520 that can't handle stuff like that 1500 01:13:21,420 --> 01:13:26,090 so 1501 01:13:32,030 --> 01:13:27,890 I don't make any money doing this 1502 01:13:34,130 --> 01:13:32,040 podcast maybe 100 100 bucks every half a 1503 01:13:35,270 --> 01:13:34,140 year or whatever 1504 01:13:37,130 --> 01:13:35,280 um 1505 01:13:38,930 --> 01:13:37,140 so I'm not in this for the money I'm not 1506 01:13:40,669 --> 01:13:38,940 in this for anything 1507 01:13:43,130 --> 01:13:40,679 I'm in this because I had my own 1508 01:13:45,830 --> 01:13:43,140 experience that blew my mind and I can't 1509 01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:45,840 stop thinking about it ever since and 1510 01:13:49,490 --> 01:13:47,520 I'm trying to find Truth by going 1511 01:13:52,630 --> 01:13:49,500 through documents but every time I 1512 01:13:58,010 --> 01:13:55,550 you know like who's who are out there 1513 01:13:59,390 --> 01:13:58,020 like on the news or whatever like it's 1514 01:14:02,209 --> 01:13:59,400 not helping me 1515 01:14:04,310 --> 01:14:02,219 and I need help 1516 01:14:06,350 --> 01:14:04,320 I want to know 1517 01:14:08,810 --> 01:14:06,360 I want some answers even if there isn't 1518 01:14:11,330 --> 01:14:08,820 answers that's fine but just prove to me 1519 01:14:14,450 --> 01:14:11,340 that there are no answers 1520 01:14:16,790 --> 01:14:14,460 people are affected by these Encounters 1521 01:14:21,830 --> 01:14:16,800 in these sightings 1522 01:14:26,750 --> 01:14:23,810 you know 1523 01:14:28,189 --> 01:14:26,760 for people's claims about this retrieval 1524 01:14:30,830 --> 01:14:28,199 thing or that retrieval thing or 1525 01:14:32,990 --> 01:14:30,840 whatever the 1526 01:14:34,550 --> 01:14:33,000 you know meanwhile I'm still here living 1527 01:14:36,229 --> 01:14:34,560 with it 1528 01:14:37,970 --> 01:14:36,239 other people are still living with 1529 01:14:43,370 --> 01:14:37,980 theirs 1530 01:14:47,709 --> 01:14:44,930 you know nobody's out there saying like 1531 01:14:50,149 --> 01:14:47,719 we have to get these people have been 1532 01:14:53,090 --> 01:14:50,159 seriously affected by these sightings 1533 01:14:55,250 --> 01:14:53,100 some answers 1534 01:14:58,010 --> 01:14:55,260 because they deserve them 1535 01:14:59,270 --> 01:14:58,020 no they're out there showing themselves 1536 01:15:02,689 --> 01:14:59,280 off 1537 01:15:08,570 --> 01:15:02,699 putting their ego on television 1538 01:15:08,580 --> 01:15:14,689 and it's 1539 01:15:14,699 --> 01:15:20,209 so 1540 01:15:23,990 --> 01:15:21,440 that's all I got 1541 01:15:26,209 --> 01:15:24,000 [Laughter] 1542 01:15:29,270 --> 01:15:26,219 uh yeah if you guys have questions I can 1543 01:15:31,490 --> 01:15:29,280 answer you know talk I love you too 1544 01:15:34,250 --> 01:15:31,500 Kitty and you know without getting into 1545 01:15:37,790 --> 01:15:36,050 because we don't need any drama but what 1546 01:15:41,090 --> 01:15:37,800 Katie's been going through on Twitter is 1547 01:15:45,050 --> 01:15:41,100 absolute horseshit 1548 01:15:45,060 --> 01:15:49,729 for who she is 1549 01:15:49,739 --> 01:15:54,590 and her views 1550 01:16:01,130 --> 01:15:57,410 they make somebody made an actual 1551 01:16:02,930 --> 01:16:01,140 YouTube show to talk about her and 1552 01:16:07,490 --> 01:16:02,940 she's one of the nicest people I've met 1553 01:16:12,770 --> 01:16:10,490 that's how pathetic 1554 01:16:16,850 --> 01:16:12,780 some of this stuff is and that is just 1555 01:16:22,669 --> 01:16:16,860 completely noise that is so 1556 01:16:27,110 --> 01:16:24,410 you know 1557 01:16:28,970 --> 01:16:27,120 Katie is a a great person she's got a 1558 01:16:30,950 --> 01:16:28,980 huge heart she's always been super kind 1559 01:16:34,850 --> 01:16:30,960 to me has reached out when she thought 1560 01:16:40,430 --> 01:16:37,550 leave her alone dude 1561 01:16:44,270 --> 01:16:40,440 leave her alone letter B find something 1562 01:16:49,430 --> 01:16:44,280 in your life that matters that doesn't 1563 01:16:54,350 --> 01:16:52,370 because it's not cool we don't need that 1564 01:16:57,110 --> 01:16:54,360 if you don't like someone don't talk to 1565 01:16:59,270 --> 01:16:57,120 them block them unfollow them why does 1566 01:17:02,090 --> 01:16:59,280 everyone feel this need to like fight 1567 01:17:05,750 --> 01:17:04,070 it's Twitter you don't have to know them 1568 01:17:07,910 --> 01:17:05,760 you don't have to talk to them you're 1569 01:17:10,189 --> 01:17:07,920 not missing out there's no 1570 01:17:12,530 --> 01:17:10,199 fear of missing out like you're not 1571 01:17:15,709 --> 01:17:12,540 missing anything block them and live 1572 01:17:19,189 --> 01:17:15,719 your life and do what you want to do 1573 01:17:20,930 --> 01:17:19,199 be a skeptic be a debunker 1574 01:17:22,610 --> 01:17:20,940 you know but don't crap on other people 1575 01:17:24,110 --> 01:17:22,620 for having a different point of view and 1576 01:17:25,669 --> 01:17:24,120 mocking them 1577 01:17:29,689 --> 01:17:25,679 for it 1578 01:17:32,570 --> 01:17:29,699 or being personable personal about who 1579 01:17:35,750 --> 01:17:34,310 you know they can do what they want 1580 01:17:38,330 --> 01:17:35,760 they're their own person if you don't 1581 01:17:41,030 --> 01:17:38,340 like it Go and gravitate towards people 1582 01:17:43,729 --> 01:17:41,040 you do like have your little skeptic 1583 01:17:46,310 --> 01:17:43,739 debunker gang we all just hang out and 1584 01:17:49,010 --> 01:17:46,320 you know whatever make fun of people but 1585 01:17:50,870 --> 01:17:49,020 just keep it with yourself 1586 01:17:52,850 --> 01:17:50,880 you don't need to spread that stuff 1587 01:17:55,010 --> 01:17:52,860 around you know and it's the same on the 1588 01:17:57,950 --> 01:17:55,020 other side like people don't need to be 1589 01:17:59,510 --> 01:17:57,960 making fun of debunkers and Skeptics and 1590 01:18:01,490 --> 01:17:59,520 getting personal with them just don't 1591 01:18:03,470 --> 01:18:01,500 talk about them make sure that your 1592 01:18:05,570 --> 01:18:03,480 argument is stronger that's what you 1593 01:18:08,630 --> 01:18:05,580 need to do if you want to show up 1594 01:18:11,870 --> 01:18:08,640 somebody make sure that your argument is 1595 01:18:14,330 --> 01:18:11,880 stronger with more facts it is more 1596 01:18:16,430 --> 01:18:14,340 fundamentally sound that's how you win 1597 01:18:23,330 --> 01:18:16,440 an argument not by calling somebody 1598 01:18:27,290 --> 01:18:25,370 you know that's what you that's what you 1599 01:18:31,729 --> 01:18:27,300 do 1600 01:18:36,590 --> 01:18:31,739 frustrated with this person block them 1601 01:18:39,770 --> 01:18:38,149 because there's enough evil in this 1602 01:18:41,510 --> 01:18:39,780 world already man we're about to hit 1603 01:18:43,250 --> 01:18:41,520 World War III 1604 01:18:47,090 --> 01:18:43,260 seriously 1605 01:18:50,990 --> 01:18:48,709 and we're here with like you know 1606 01:18:54,050 --> 01:18:51,000 thousands of followers on Twitter like 1607 01:18:55,729 --> 01:18:54,060 which is meaning meaningless I love the 1608 01:18:57,590 --> 01:18:55,739 people who follow me and engage with me 1609 01:19:00,110 --> 01:18:57,600 are super nice but in the scheme of 1610 01:19:03,590 --> 01:19:00,120 everything it's it's nothing like we're 1611 01:19:05,570 --> 01:19:03,600 nothing's making a difference there 1612 01:19:07,790 --> 01:19:05,580 nobody cares 1613 01:19:10,850 --> 01:19:07,800 nobody gives a about our Twitter 1614 01:19:12,890 --> 01:19:10,860 argument we're not changing the world 1615 01:19:18,110 --> 01:19:12,900 doing that 1616 01:19:22,729 --> 01:19:20,330 but it does to the individual person you 1617 01:19:25,070 --> 01:19:22,739 know it it hurts that person as far as 1618 01:19:28,750 --> 01:19:25,080 we know I've said this before we only 1619 01:19:31,550 --> 01:19:28,760 have this one life and why spend it 1620 01:19:35,570 --> 01:19:31,560 bringing other people down or spending 1621 01:19:37,130 --> 01:19:35,580 it in in negative hateful ways 1622 01:19:38,930 --> 01:19:37,140 you know 1623 01:19:41,510 --> 01:19:38,940 try to do something for yourself that 1624 01:19:44,630 --> 01:19:41,520 keeps you happy it makes you happy even 1625 01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:48,110 you know 1626 01:19:51,530 --> 01:19:50,090 there are some people out there where I 1627 01:19:53,570 --> 01:19:51,540 don't believe a word they say but I'm 1628 01:19:56,990 --> 01:19:53,580 never going to be mean to them about it 1629 01:20:02,510 --> 01:20:00,470 I'm gonna try my best to lead by example 1630 01:20:03,590 --> 01:20:02,520 you know I'm gonna live my life do my 1631 01:20:05,630 --> 01:20:03,600 thing 1632 01:20:08,510 --> 01:20:05,640 try to have integrity 1633 01:20:11,570 --> 01:20:08,520 and hopefully 1634 01:20:12,890 --> 01:20:11,580 you know people admire that or like that 1635 01:20:16,250 --> 01:20:12,900 and and 1636 01:20:19,130 --> 01:20:16,260 follow me for it and 1637 01:20:22,130 --> 01:20:21,290 and that's what every one should be 1638 01:20:24,229 --> 01:20:22,140 doing 1639 01:20:26,209 --> 01:20:24,239 is setting an example with the way they 1640 01:20:29,030 --> 01:20:26,219 conduct themselves and one of the best 1641 01:20:31,370 --> 01:20:29,040 people at that I must say 1642 01:20:33,530 --> 01:20:31,380 is disclosure teams back in the chat is 1643 01:20:36,770 --> 01:20:33,540 if any at disclosure team 1644 01:20:39,410 --> 01:20:36,780 you won't get an argument or negative 1645 01:20:40,669 --> 01:20:39,420 comment out of that guy if he paid him a 1646 01:20:43,490 --> 01:20:40,679 million bucks 1647 01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:43,500 like I just won't do it 1648 01:20:51,290 --> 01:20:49,610 because you know first he's obviously 1649 01:20:54,410 --> 01:20:51,300 very mature 1650 01:21:00,110 --> 01:20:56,510 he's an honest and kind person and he 1651 01:21:02,090 --> 01:21:00,120 realizes that that doesn't help anything 1652 01:21:04,310 --> 01:21:02,100 you know like I went through that 1653 01:21:07,189 --> 01:21:04,320 document earlier for a reason 1654 01:21:08,990 --> 01:21:07,199 where it was the newspaper one right 1655 01:21:11,330 --> 01:21:09,000 where the guy was prepping the Air Force 1656 01:21:14,630 --> 01:21:12,950 and he said one thing that he had going 1657 01:21:16,669 --> 01:21:14,640 for him into this conference with the 1658 01:21:18,050 --> 01:21:16,679 newspaper people is that other guests 1659 01:21:20,810 --> 01:21:18,060 were just gonna 1660 01:21:22,790 --> 01:21:20,820 argue with each other and he wouldn't 1661 01:21:24,709 --> 01:21:22,800 have to say anything 1662 01:21:26,090 --> 01:21:24,719 that's what's happening on Twitter is 1663 01:21:28,430 --> 01:21:26,100 people just 1664 01:21:29,990 --> 01:21:28,440 argue with each other meanwhile the Air 1665 01:21:32,689 --> 01:21:30,000 Force 1666 01:21:34,370 --> 01:21:32,699 is in the background not doing 1667 01:21:37,790 --> 01:21:34,380 not caring 1668 01:21:40,729 --> 01:21:37,800 giving videos crystal clear videos 1669 01:21:42,590 --> 01:21:40,739 over the Black Sea 1670 01:21:43,910 --> 01:21:42,600 not caring about anything we're doing 1671 01:21:46,490 --> 01:21:43,920 because we can't even get our 1672 01:21:48,169 --> 01:21:46,500 together because all we do is bicker and 1673 01:21:50,330 --> 01:21:48,179 argue 1674 01:21:52,070 --> 01:21:50,340 about stuff that makes no freaking 1675 01:21:58,070 --> 01:21:52,080 difference 1676 01:22:04,850 --> 01:22:00,709 and just nothing gets done that way 1677 01:22:04,860 --> 01:22:10,130 and it's probably set up that way 1678 01:22:16,970 --> 01:22:11,990 I would bet anything that there's people 1679 01:22:20,270 --> 01:22:16,980 in this community that are are tasked 1680 01:22:22,729 --> 01:22:20,280 to create drama that are tasked to keep 1681 01:22:24,229 --> 01:22:22,739 people arguing 1682 01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:24,239 and not thinking about what really 1683 01:22:28,729 --> 01:22:26,400 matters 1684 01:22:31,130 --> 01:22:28,739 which is transparency honestly in 1685 01:22:32,930 --> 01:22:31,140 Congressional hearings under oath 1686 01:22:34,070 --> 01:22:32,940 and whatever else you think matters 1687 01:22:36,470 --> 01:22:34,080 whether it's 1688 01:22:41,450 --> 01:22:36,480 you know digging into your your 1689 01:22:41,460 --> 01:22:44,270 you know 1690 01:22:47,689 --> 01:22:46,370 but the the division the arguments and 1691 01:22:49,370 --> 01:22:47,699 all that kind of stuff you know you're 1692 01:22:51,229 --> 01:22:49,380 not going to stop everybody from arguing 1693 01:22:53,570 --> 01:22:51,239 I totally get it but 1694 01:22:55,130 --> 01:22:53,580 you know just stay focused and 1695 01:22:58,850 --> 01:22:55,140 everybody's guilty of it I've done it 1696 01:23:03,229 --> 01:23:00,890 I've really tried my hardest to stay out 1697 01:23:06,290 --> 01:23:03,239 of it 1698 01:23:08,530 --> 01:23:06,300 you know but I'm not uh I'm far from I'm 1699 01:23:10,189 --> 01:23:08,540 no Vinnie let's say that 1700 01:23:12,890 --> 01:23:10,199 [Laughter] 1701 01:23:14,510 --> 01:23:12,900 I'm no Vinnie I'm still subject uh to 1702 01:23:16,250 --> 01:23:14,520 human nature which a lot of that is 1703 01:23:22,970 --> 01:23:16,260 human nature but we have to fight that 1704 01:23:26,090 --> 01:23:24,649 what do you guys think what do you guys 1705 01:23:27,470 --> 01:23:26,100 think division is the easiest way to 1706 01:23:29,390 --> 01:23:27,480 control large group 1707 01:23:33,890 --> 01:23:29,400 completely 1708 01:23:36,590 --> 01:23:33,900 and that's what we that's what we're 1709 01:23:41,030 --> 01:23:39,050 that is what we're doing uh any 1710 01:23:46,010 --> 01:23:41,040 questions or 1711 01:23:51,470 --> 01:23:49,790 so anything like that uh uh yeah you 1712 01:23:54,350 --> 01:23:51,480 know I'm not gonna run from this point 1713 01:23:56,810 --> 01:23:54,360 this was a few months ago 1714 01:23:59,270 --> 01:23:56,820 um I'm not sure if anything's really 1715 01:24:01,490 --> 01:23:59,280 said anything that was hurtful 1716 01:24:02,870 --> 01:24:01,500 but I had well whatever it was like he 1717 01:24:06,250 --> 01:24:02,880 didn't like it and I definitely 1718 01:24:09,709 --> 01:24:06,260 apologized about that uh many times 1719 01:24:12,050 --> 01:24:09,719 uh privately in private messages and 1720 01:24:15,110 --> 01:24:12,060 once publicly and he just told me to go 1721 01:24:18,229 --> 01:24:15,120 myself basically so 1722 01:24:20,990 --> 01:24:18,239 but you know that's how it is 1723 01:24:26,149 --> 01:24:23,270 I really don't know much uh Katie about 1724 01:24:28,729 --> 01:24:26,159 the Georgia tassel thing 1725 01:24:31,729 --> 01:24:28,739 like I just know like that that photo 1726 01:24:33,110 --> 01:24:31,739 that I shared on your page 1727 01:24:36,649 --> 01:24:33,120 um 1728 01:24:40,430 --> 01:24:36,659 the Blue Book photo because 1729 01:24:43,070 --> 01:24:40,440 yeah you shared that photo and I knew 1730 01:24:45,709 --> 01:24:43,080 I knew I had a Project Blue Book had a a 1731 01:24:48,169 --> 01:24:45,719 photograph of that thing so I wanted to 1732 01:24:50,570 --> 01:24:48,179 grab it and share it to you 1733 01:24:51,770 --> 01:24:50,580 um so I'm not really too knowledgeable 1734 01:24:56,870 --> 01:24:51,780 on 1735 01:24:58,790 --> 01:24:56,880 so in the photo of the UFO in the photo 1736 01:25:01,070 --> 01:24:58,800 that I shared with you 1737 01:25:02,510 --> 01:25:01,080 um I'm pretty sure is there's a few of 1738 01:25:06,229 --> 01:25:02,520 those that are like that in Blue Book 1739 01:25:08,090 --> 01:25:06,239 even the famous like Jimmy Carter uh UFO 1740 01:25:11,510 --> 01:25:08,100 photo where he's on like a helicopter 1741 01:25:14,330 --> 01:25:11,520 like that's the same kind of uh uh thing 1742 01:25:16,790 --> 01:25:14,340 that's on that photo and people say it's 1743 01:25:19,550 --> 01:25:16,800 you know a blemish that happens 1744 01:25:21,470 --> 01:25:19,560 in development so you know it's probably 1745 01:25:23,510 --> 01:25:21,480 not a really beautiful but 1746 01:25:28,030 --> 01:25:23,520 it was in Blue Book 1747 01:25:35,750 --> 01:25:31,550 so yeah 1748 01:25:37,970 --> 01:25:35,760 anything else anything uh 1749 01:25:40,970 --> 01:25:37,980 I can tell you about a crazy dream I had 1750 01:25:42,709 --> 01:25:40,980 a long time ago that was 1751 01:25:46,669 --> 01:25:42,719 um probably one of the first weird 1752 01:25:52,910 --> 01:25:49,790 so it's about 20 years ago maybe 19 or 1753 01:25:53,750 --> 01:25:52,920 20 I don't remember exactly but 1754 01:25:59,629 --> 01:25:53,760 um 1755 01:26:06,050 --> 01:26:03,590 so it starts out that I'm in this uh 1756 01:26:08,510 --> 01:26:06,060 like kind of like concrete uh basketball 1757 01:26:10,430 --> 01:26:08,520 court playground of a school 1758 01:26:11,930 --> 01:26:10,440 and I'm out there 1759 01:26:14,930 --> 01:26:11,940 and 1760 01:26:17,390 --> 01:26:14,940 there's these 1761 01:26:20,209 --> 01:26:17,400 two tornadoes that I see out in the 1762 01:26:24,050 --> 01:26:20,219 distance they're big two tornadoes and 1763 01:26:28,729 --> 01:26:25,669 and I'm like okay well what am I gonna 1764 01:26:31,189 --> 01:26:28,739 do and I remember having this uh 1765 01:26:33,169 --> 01:26:31,199 uh feeling when they were coming at me 1766 01:26:36,229 --> 01:26:33,179 like um 1767 01:26:38,330 --> 01:26:36,239 you know I can either run and hide or I 1768 01:26:40,910 --> 01:26:38,340 can deal with this right so it's very 1769 01:26:42,709 --> 01:26:40,920 metaphorical which is like kind of how I 1770 01:26:44,570 --> 01:26:42,719 dress and look at a lot of things in my 1771 01:26:47,270 --> 01:26:44,580 life for better for worse so these 1772 01:26:49,669 --> 01:26:47,280 tornadoes are coming at me and I decided 1773 01:26:51,290 --> 01:26:49,679 I was going to stay there and fight them 1774 01:26:52,729 --> 01:26:51,300 so they were going to come at me and I 1775 01:26:55,129 --> 01:26:52,739 was going to deal with it so the two 1776 01:26:56,810 --> 01:26:55,139 tornadoes came at me and I remember I 1777 01:26:59,330 --> 01:26:56,820 grabbed each one 1778 01:27:01,310 --> 01:26:59,340 with each hand 1779 01:27:04,129 --> 01:27:01,320 wait 1780 01:27:06,770 --> 01:27:04,139 is that how it started no I'm skipping 1781 01:27:12,890 --> 01:27:09,530 okay so I'm skipping apart 1782 01:27:15,770 --> 01:27:12,900 okay backwards so I'm on this thing 1783 01:27:18,350 --> 01:27:15,780 on this playground so I go to walk into 1784 01:27:20,030 --> 01:27:18,360 these doors of the school that's how it 1785 01:27:21,649 --> 01:27:20,040 started so I go to walk in these doors 1786 01:27:24,530 --> 01:27:21,659 of this school there's these two double 1787 01:27:26,590 --> 01:27:24,540 doors and I walk in and it's a library 1788 01:27:29,510 --> 01:27:26,600 and there's like this librarian desk 1789 01:27:30,410 --> 01:27:29,520 there and there's a guy behind it that I 1790 01:27:31,550 --> 01:27:30,420 think is 1791 01:27:33,830 --> 01:27:31,560 um from 1792 01:27:36,470 --> 01:27:33,840 um the Middle East 1793 01:27:38,629 --> 01:27:36,480 I'm not sure where from and he hands me 1794 01:27:40,550 --> 01:27:38,639 this scroll like I just you know how 1795 01:27:44,629 --> 01:27:40,560 you'd imagine like a biblical biblical 1796 01:27:47,810 --> 01:27:44,639 scroll he hands it to me so I grab it 1797 01:27:50,570 --> 01:27:47,820 I walk outside of the doors and I start 1798 01:27:52,970 --> 01:27:50,580 opening it as I'm walking out and the 1799 01:27:55,910 --> 01:27:52,980 only thing I remember about uh 1800 01:27:57,950 --> 01:27:55,920 being out at our seven something like 1801 01:28:00,530 --> 01:27:57,960 seven this seven that and seven 1802 01:28:02,930 --> 01:28:00,540 something that's all I remember so I'm 1803 01:28:04,790 --> 01:28:02,940 walking outside on the playground and 1804 01:28:07,010 --> 01:28:04,800 this wind picks up 1805 01:28:09,470 --> 01:28:07,020 and it knocks it out of my hand scroll 1806 01:28:12,229 --> 01:28:09,480 and it goes blowing off so as that 1807 01:28:14,990 --> 01:28:12,239 happens I look and I see these two 1808 01:28:17,870 --> 01:28:15,000 tornadoes coming at me 1809 01:28:20,570 --> 01:28:17,880 they start coming at me I grab each one 1810 01:28:21,649 --> 01:28:20,580 and I crisscross them 1811 01:28:23,390 --> 01:28:21,659 right 1812 01:28:25,250 --> 01:28:23,400 and then all of a sudden there's this 1813 01:28:27,470 --> 01:28:25,260 dust and a lot of wind and I'm in the 1814 01:28:29,209 --> 01:28:27,480 middle of it and you know just like 1815 01:28:31,189 --> 01:28:29,219 blowing around like ever see that movie 1816 01:28:33,649 --> 01:28:31,199 uh twister you know you're in the middle 1817 01:28:36,590 --> 01:28:33,659 of a tornado that's what a I would 1818 01:28:40,010 --> 01:28:36,600 imagine it would feel like other than me 1819 01:28:43,729 --> 01:28:40,020 still being alive so as this happens 1820 01:28:46,669 --> 01:28:43,739 um I start raising off the ground 1821 01:28:48,470 --> 01:28:46,679 and I remember thinking like this is 1822 01:28:50,390 --> 01:28:48,480 different because I used to fly in my 1823 01:28:53,090 --> 01:28:50,400 dreams all the time and I used to know 1824 01:28:55,189 --> 01:28:53,100 how to activate how to fly in my dreams 1825 01:28:56,990 --> 01:28:55,199 like there's something in my feet and I 1826 01:28:59,629 --> 01:28:57,000 knew how to actually do it but this time 1827 01:29:01,129 --> 01:28:59,639 I wasn't doing that I was just raising 1828 01:29:06,590 --> 01:29:01,139 up 1829 01:29:09,050 --> 01:29:06,600 and as this is happening there's these 1830 01:29:10,070 --> 01:29:09,060 like white little 1831 01:29:12,169 --> 01:29:10,080 um 1832 01:29:15,290 --> 01:29:12,179 I don't know how else to describe it but 1833 01:29:18,110 --> 01:29:15,300 like they seem like Spirits or or 1834 01:29:21,110 --> 01:29:18,120 something and they're whisping back and 1835 01:29:22,370 --> 01:29:21,120 forth all around me 1836 01:29:23,270 --> 01:29:22,380 and 1837 01:29:25,129 --> 01:29:23,280 um 1838 01:29:27,830 --> 01:29:25,139 I start hearing like this beautiful 1839 01:29:31,129 --> 01:29:27,840 sound 1840 01:29:34,010 --> 01:29:31,139 um it's like if I could imagine like um 1841 01:29:36,649 --> 01:29:34,020 a bunch of horns or or violins hitting 1842 01:29:39,110 --> 01:29:36,659 the same beautiful note at the same time 1843 01:29:42,229 --> 01:29:39,120 you know and it just was like hitting me 1844 01:29:44,629 --> 01:29:42,239 as these things are whispered by me 1845 01:29:48,590 --> 01:29:44,639 and as that happens 1846 01:29:49,910 --> 01:29:48,600 I I'm looking out and I see this is 1847 01:29:52,610 --> 01:29:49,920 where it gets kind of goofy so I'm 1848 01:29:56,090 --> 01:29:52,620 looking up and I see this stained glass 1849 01:29:59,450 --> 01:29:56,100 picture of what looks like Jesus Christ 1850 01:30:00,590 --> 01:29:59,460 what we know to look like Jesus 1851 01:30:03,169 --> 01:30:00,600 so 1852 01:30:04,790 --> 01:30:03,179 I see that and I start getting closer to 1853 01:30:09,770 --> 01:30:04,800 it 1854 01:30:12,890 --> 01:30:09,780 from a stained glass window 1855 01:30:16,010 --> 01:30:12,900 into a real face 1856 01:30:20,990 --> 01:30:16,020 and the person tells me 1857 01:30:24,370 --> 01:30:21,000 Sean just relax and go back to school 1858 01:30:29,090 --> 01:30:26,450 and I woke up 1859 01:30:30,410 --> 01:30:29,100 and I remember thinking like what 1860 01:30:31,669 --> 01:30:30,420 there has to be a meaning of that 1861 01:30:34,370 --> 01:30:31,679 because I woke up and I was like in 1862 01:30:36,290 --> 01:30:34,380 tears it was like that powerful like if 1863 01:30:38,629 --> 01:30:36,300 you actually talk to like God or 1864 01:30:42,169 --> 01:30:38,639 something I would imagine you would feel 1865 01:30:43,850 --> 01:30:42,179 like that when you just like I'm so 1866 01:30:46,370 --> 01:30:43,860 emotional 1867 01:30:48,590 --> 01:30:46,380 crying all that stuff like it and I was 1868 01:30:49,310 --> 01:30:48,600 you know 20 year old person 21 or 1869 01:30:51,709 --> 01:30:49,320 whatever 1870 01:30:54,890 --> 01:30:51,719 like it affected me and I still remember 1871 01:30:59,689 --> 01:30:56,510 um and I think about that sometimes like 1872 01:31:01,490 --> 01:30:59,699 just relax and go back to school and 1873 01:31:03,350 --> 01:31:01,500 you know 1874 01:31:06,410 --> 01:31:03,360 and I think there is a message in there 1875 01:31:10,729 --> 01:31:06,420 and what it is is 1876 01:31:11,870 --> 01:31:10,739 to just relax and and live live your 1877 01:31:14,870 --> 01:31:11,880 life 1878 01:31:17,810 --> 01:31:14,880 be the best you can be 1879 01:31:21,169 --> 01:31:17,820 and stop worrying so much 1880 01:31:25,790 --> 01:31:23,990 so I don't know if there's anyone out 1881 01:31:28,129 --> 01:31:25,800 there that needed to hear that just 1882 01:31:29,330 --> 01:31:28,139 relax and go back to school because life 1883 01:31:32,390 --> 01:31:29,340 is cool 1884 01:31:34,370 --> 01:31:32,400 and live and you learn 1885 01:31:36,830 --> 01:31:34,380 you know 1886 01:31:52,850 --> 01:31:36,840 so 1887 01:31:57,110 --> 01:31:52,860 out of here I hope you guys enjoyed the 1888 01:32:00,470 --> 01:31:58,550 so 1889 01:32:02,450 --> 01:32:00,480 um 1890 01:32:03,890 --> 01:32:02,460 we addressed some interesting things I 1891 01:32:05,510 --> 01:32:03,900 got to vent a little bit I showed you 1892 01:32:08,030 --> 01:32:05,520 some interesting documents I hope you 1893 01:32:09,830 --> 01:32:08,040 enjoyed those 1894 01:32:11,810 --> 01:32:09,840 um but I think that probably wraps it up 1895 01:32:13,490 --> 01:32:11,820 for me I think 1896 01:32:17,629 --> 01:32:13,500 I think I'm a little overdue to get out 1897 01:32:24,350 --> 01:32:21,110 yes let's party 1898 01:32:27,410 --> 01:32:24,360 so I appreciate everybody thanks Robert 1899 01:32:32,149 --> 01:32:28,870 um yep 1900 01:32:35,750 --> 01:32:33,890 um yeah with that being said 1901 01:32:38,090 --> 01:32:35,760 um like the video share it subscribe if 1902 01:32:40,910 --> 01:32:38,100 if you do like it follow me on Twitter 1903 01:32:44,750 --> 01:32:40,920 any of that kind of stuff say what's up 1904 01:32:46,430 --> 01:32:44,760 Surfside good to see you back in the 1905 01:32:51,770 --> 01:32:46,440 live chat appreciate it 1906 01:32:59,510 --> 01:32:55,790 um yeah so that being said 1907 01:33:06,970 --> 01:33:01,669 keep your eyes on the prize see you next 1908 01:33:11,990 --> 01:33:09,370 [Music] 1909 01:33:13,370 --> 01:33:12,000 a little due respect to the Air Force I